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    warm up time?

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    who long do the cheap under $300 machines take to heat up?

    or should I stay with the moka pot for a quick (under 10 minute) coffee in the morning?

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    Re: warm up time?

    do you have a grinder?

    if no = buy grinder & keep moka

    if yes = about ten mins in minimum if you flush a bit of water to speed the heat up i reckon on a thermo block machine

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    Re: warm up time?

    Morning routine -

    Hit snooze button, go back to sleep for 9 minutes (why do snoozes go for 9 minutes?).

    Repeat.

    Finally give in and turn alarm off and get up, walk to kitchen and turn machine on.

    Shower, shave etc etc, dress.

    Open door, feed cat, talk to galah (which shrieks in return >:( ).

    Check coffee machine - excellent :). Hot and stabilised [smiley=thumbsup.gif]

    Easy.


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    Re: warm up time?

    Husband gets up for work, turns on machine before he goes, I get up half an hour later to get kids ready for school and machine is ready to go. Life is good.

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    Re: warm up time?

    Santa has a grinder in his sack with my name on it.

    The nespresso ( I didnt drink coffee be for I got this) machine takes less than 1 minute to get up to temperature.

    I used to work in a pizza bar and that coffee machine took nearly an hour to get up to temperature.

    Look like I will have to do the research or change my morning routine.

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    Re: warm up time?

    I note we are talking about sub $300 machines-I think the thermoblock machines made by Breville and Sunbeam in this price range warm up much faster than a single boiler machine. Hopefully someone who has one of thee can correct me if I am wrong

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    Re: warm up time?

    I have not used a boiler machine. I find my thermoblock machines have a very quick warm up.

    Before my first brew I run hot water through the unloaded portafilter into my cup to clean and warm them up.

    Barry

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    Re: warm up time?

    My Gaggia is ready in about 5 to 10 minutes, it quick enough to turn it off between brews.

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    Re: warm up time?

    Lets get this straight people......

    The thermoblock may be up to temperature within a few minutes but the rest of the machine is not.

    Quote Originally Posted by 656D757F62060 link=1292063977/2#2 date=1292067556
    Hot and stabilised
    Well said.

    You can flush some hot water through the group handle to try speed up the process but the best coffee you can make will only be when everything is properly up to temperature and stabilised.

    Even my Expobar HX has caused me grief when it has turned itself off because of low water and I havent noticed or if Im late for my coffee and the timer has switched it off.

    Despite the amount of heat it retains with all the brass its made of, just because the gauge says its ready to steam and it all feels very hot to the touch, the resultant coffee doesnt even look right as it pours.

    Quote Originally Posted by 566368687F5951676F726375060 link=1292063977/5#5 date=1292185640
    I note we are talking about sub $300 machines-I think the thermoblock machines made by Breville and Sunbeam in this price range warm up much faster than a single boiler machine. Hopefully someone who has one of thee can correct me if I am wrong *
    mishky my boiler is ready in 2 minutes. The rest of the machine is still cold at this point.

    *****

    There are some truths most newcomers to coffee learn.

    Number 1 is that the grinder is more important than the machine.

    How many times do we read their astonishment and thanks for opening their eyes to this fact?

    Number 2 for me is that cheap machines are not really ready to go in only 10 minutes or whatever other short period of time someone boasts.

    Machines need to reach a stable operating temperature in all parts that have anything to do with making your coffee.

    NOT just the boiler or thermoblock but the water pipes, the group head, the handle and basket etc.

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    Re: warm up time?

    Quote Originally Posted by 5864796268697E6B63680C0 link=1292063977/8#8 date=1292193430
    mishky my boiler is ready in 2 minutes. The rest of the machine is still cold at this point.
    OK so basically the answer is that you have to be prepared to wait in the morning until your machine is warmed up AND stabilised ,no matter what machine you have . If you are the first one up , you have to work your routine around the coffee machine :)

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    Re: warm up time?

    There are cheats as mentioned to speed things along such as one for the Silvia http://www.coffeekid.com/archived/rancilio/cheatsilvia but using a conventional startup 20-30 minutes is normal. My Pavoni is an exception as it is up to temp at 15 minutes including the group handle.

    Flick it on first go do the morning necessities then make a coffee.

    Quote Originally Posted by 7F747544757A7269751B0 link=1292063977/4#4 date=1292156639
    nespresso ( I didnt drink coffee
    I could be rude for mentioning Nespresso and coffee in the same sentence but I wont *;)

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    Re: warm up time?

    I have an expobar leva HX and solved the 30 min warm up time problem by putting her on a timer , cheap solution and very effective. It starts the machine 30 min before I wake up and thats it...
    ciao


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    Re: warm up time?

    Quote Originally Posted by 7C71781D0 link=1292063977/11#11 date=1292510018
    I have an expobar leva HX and solved the 30 min warm up time problem by putting her on a timer , cheap solution and very effective. It starts the machine 30 min before I wake up and thats it...
    ciao
    Good stuff ale,

    The recommendation is that any machine placed on a timer should also be attached to surge protection- either at your fuse box, or on a power board...

    Enjoy that first shot ;)

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    Re: warm up time?

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    Yes I agree with TG, when I had my cheap Breville machine it definitely performed best with at least 30 mins or more of time to warm up everything in the brew path.
    In the morning if the first thing you did was turn machine on, then everything else, before you made your coffee, most people should have in excess of 30 mins for the machine to warm up.
    For those who jump out of bed into their clothes, make coffee and out the door, then a timer setup is the best option to allow the machine to warm up before you are up....but do heed the warnings about possible shortcomings of this method.



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