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    My VST

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    Well Guys just had my first morning with my new VST basket and thought Id give a bit of a running commentary of my experience for those considering a VST as I chase that perfect shot.

    The Specs:

    - Giotto Evo
    - Mazzer Mini - e
    - Pullman Barista

    ^ 18g Ridgeless VST
    ^ 1 1/2 week old seasonal blend from AXIL

    Initial impressions:

    VST ridgeless vs Synesso

    - thicker material
    - slippery surface
    - more holes/consistent diameter
    = very impressed.

    This mornings shot:

    Had the Mazzer set on slightly finer grind as per the advice of some people who have gone before me; about 16 1/2 on the Mazzer, previously this would have lead to a drip, drip style pour with the Synesso. Dosage not entirely sure but I have seemed to have found the perfect dose for the Giotto which works no matter the basket really; Scotty dosing tool 4 to distribute with a no. 3 sweep over, which leaves a light shower screen impression post extraction with a relatively dry puck that comes out clean into the knock box.

    ^Result: Not a gusher but somewhat fast for my liking.

    And so I plan on turning the Mazzer down to 14 and will report back on my findings.

    Note:

    This first was a little flawed as 2 things
    - I think my beans are starting to get a little old. Plan on picking up some fresh roast over lunch next door.
    - My tamper was a little too big! for the basket and was catching :(. Thinking oh no I will either need to buy a new basket from Pullman to match the size of my tamper or alternatively send it away to get re-machined; I had a brainwave!* :o As stated previously the basket walls/material a thicker than the Synesso so I swapped out the Synesso spring for the regular Giotto spring and Wallah! The thicker Synesso spring was pinching the VST in causing my tamper to get stuck. And so with the regular spring it still holds the VST firmly and I have a precise fit Pullman for my new VST!* *8-)

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    Re: My VST

    great notes and feedback!

    old beans? 1.5wk isnt old, if anything its probably perfect age (for me anyway) I find 10 days from roast is the sweet spot

    Get a 58mm tamper and be done with precision fit forever ;) *giggle*

    I must say, Ive stuck with the VST (18gm ridged at the mo). Im getting great results after sticking with it. I spent a great deal of time stuffing around with the dose, but lately Im back to my grind in to a mound and tamp it down method which is giving great extractions. Mind you I can dose from the mazzer (doser) in to a lovely neat mound.

    You may have left out the most important part of your evaluation. Result in the cup. How did it taste?

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    Re: My VST

    Well tonights update.

    My tamper is a very percise fit, that said it does fit; but relies very much on me tamping very very straight.

    Well, dosed again the same and as usual my routine the no.4 distribute with a no.3 sweep hit the dosing sweet spot.

    This time adjusted the Mazzer to about 14 1/2 and got a nice pour but still maybe just a tinsy two fast so I think 13 1/2 to 14 should nail it.

    Tasted the shot before I added the milk. Was smooth with no harsh bite, the crema was thick and long lasting.

    I think IMHO opinion the thing I believe I may be detecting in terms of difference between the VST and the Synesso is less fines??? stay tuned. ::)



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    Re: My VST

    Good thread. I just got my first VST basket and my 58.5mm pullman barista is too big as well. It fit my stock Giotto baskets fine, even though it was made for an EM6910. I guess I was lucky in that case. I tried swapping springs but havent been as lucky as you. Contemplating my next move... possibly a standard 58mm tamper.

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    Re: My VST

    Quote Originally Posted by 696C63646861207E6C630D0 link=1323901103/3#3 date=1324276315
    Good thread. I just got my first VST basket and my 58.5mm pullman barista is too big as well. It fit my stock Giotto baskets fine, even though it was made for an EM6910. I guess I was lucky in that case. I tried swapping springs but havent been as lucky as you. Contemplating my next move... possibly a standard 58mm tamper.
    Why not contact Greg Pullman and ask if he can skim a little off your Barista
    so it will fit, may be an option. :)

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    Re: My VST

    Yeah definitely get it resized. Thats a lot of dosh to just end up buying another tamper. Pain but necessary IMHO.

    Whats in tonight’s double shot:

    Another AXIL roast - EL Retiro_EL Salvador 6/12/2011 *first shot with these beans.

    Dose aprox 22g

    Mazzer mini setting 15

    Pour: lil fast, will try 14 1/2

    Result: Certainly palatable, lasting crema, tiny by sour, fruity/citrus nuances.


    VST comment: I believe it produces slightly more clarity, if dosed correctly blondes quite late into pour, less fines.

    Stay tuned as we try and find the god shot ! :D

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    Re: My VST

    Hey Daniel,

    Does the tamper fit into the basket when it is empty of grinds??

    With these precise fit tampers your tamping has to be dead straight down otherwise youll hit a road block.

    I do a first real slight tamp very careful slowly lowering it with the support of my fingers then lift. Then a second more firmer tamp which is guided by the sides of the basket.

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    Re: My VST

    Well guys Ive decided my tamper is just too close a fit for the vst. I either need to just stick with the* synesso or get the Pullman resized.

    Regardless itll be after Christmas. For those who have sent their tamper base back to Pullman whats the turn around been like?

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    Depends on how busy we are and what service you choose. Best case scenario is ~48 hours - you express post the base to us, it gets to us next day, we resize and reship the same day via express and its back to you. Its more likely to take around a week.

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    Thanks good to know. Ill most likely look into it after Christmas.

    I would like to be able to use it with a correctly sized tamper so that I can a true feel of the VST.



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