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    Camping set up (Jayco camper trailer)

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    So first of all, howdy.

    We are buying our first camper in the next month or 2 and looking for advice for a small footprint espresso set up. Wife has milk based coffee whereas Im a ristretto/espresso drinker

    We use a Breville dual boiler at home and have just ordered a smart grinder (reward points ;-) )to go with it so I could probably send the Sunbeam POS I have currently to van duties, or take the BSG with me.

    Was thinking a 2nd hand Silvia perhaps? I've never tried an Aeropress type of machine but not a fan of stove top style coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blybo View Post
    I've never tried an Aeropress type of machine but not a fan of stove top style coffee.
    The Aeropress produces coffee that is nothing like a stove top. Find a snob or a cafe near you that has an Aeropress and give it a shot. Try it using both paper filters and the metal disc filters if you can as there's a very noticeable difference between them. It's not espresso but rather in a category all by itself. The Aeropress is a cheap and easy way to make great coffee while on the road. But it's not espresso.


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    Hi blydo

    We have a Jayco Hawk and I also contemplated a machine and grinder especially given our impending 6 week trip. I've got access to a basic machine and grinder that I could take. I'm the only coffee drinker and I drink 75% of my coffee black, so I don't have a need to have milk based coffees like you do though.

    So I'll be taking the Aeropress and Clever Coffee Dripper along with my hand grinder, freshly roasted beans and of course my Jetboil for those roadside stops.

    In the end the idea of having to pack the machine and grinder away every time we take off coupled with the limited bench and storage space made it a relatively straight forward and easy decision. I also like free camping which to me means no power. So Jetboil + aeropress + hand grinder + fresh roasted coffee = great times ahead

    Will be watching this thread with interest.

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    I can vouch for the Aeropress. I used to use a stovetop then last camping trip a friend introduced me to an Aeropress. I know use it in the office with my hand grinder and take that camping.
    I'm addicted to coffee as much as the next snob but with Javabeen and couldn't motivate myself to taking
    Machines. But then again 6 weeks is a long time

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    Quote Originally Posted by mmmcoffee View Post
    But then again 6 weeks is a long time
    Yes I know. I'll be taking a list of 'reputable' coffee shops with me and making sure I stop at them when I pass by. And if I get desperate, I'm simply going to ask if I can make the coffee myself using their machine hehe.

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    My dad has a lelit combi bolted to the bench in his van, pretty much the best thing ever. Able to run off inverter/generator as needed as well. Footprint is about the same as a silvia sans grinder, won't do better than that

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    Bacchi stovetop coupled with Lido hand grinder produces real espresso better than most cafés ( using freshly roasted beans of course)

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    How about a small la pavoni lever

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gavisconi007 View Post
    Bacchi stovetop coupled with Lido hand grinder produces real espresso better than most cafés ( using freshly roasted beans of course)
    Looks promising but a bit pricey for my liking. This or a Portaspresso Air look the best bets so far but at the upper end of what I'd like to spend. 2nd hand would be okay too but I guess these things don't pop up too often.

    Although we are camping in a pop up campervan we won't move around too much (3 and 4 year old girls) so taking an actual espresso machine plus either of my home grinders doesn't phase me. In fact my wife saw you tube videos of the Portaspresso machine and thought it was an overly fiddly process. Does look like it's built like a tank though.

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    We've been down a similar path and although we have the room ( 6 berth motor home) decided not to install an espresso machine, I did buy a Portapresso and grinder a couple of years back however am finding that making two long blacks in the AM is whole lot more stuffing around than than I'm prepared to put up with, perhaps another Aeropress is the answer

    One good point about not taking the Bezzera on the road is that we certainly have something to look forward to on our return home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post
    One good point about not taking the Bezzera on the road is that we certainly have something to look forward to on our return home.
    Yep, I now what you mean Yelta, that first espresso when you get back home is just gold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blybo View Post
    Looks promising but a bit pricey for my liking. This or a Portaspresso Air look the best bets so far but at the upper end of what I'd like to spend. 2nd hand would be okay too but I guess these things don't pop up too often.

    Although we are camping in a pop up campervan we won't move around too much (3 and 4 year old girls) so taking an actual espresso machine plus either of my home grinders doesn't phase me. In fact my wife saw you tube videos of the Portaspresso machine and thought it was an overly fiddly process. Does look like it's built like a tank though.
    Can't speak highly enough of the quality of coffee produced by the Baachi. While it is pricey for a stovetop device, and it doesn't steam milk......what comes out the spout once you learn to use it is fantastic. I don't know why I don't use it more often at home.

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    Some of the hand operated grinders are very small and robust and can produce a good grind if you are willing to put in the elbow grease.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    Can't speak highly enough of the quality of coffee produced by the Baachi. While it is pricey for a stovetop device, and it doesn't steam milk......what comes out the spout once you learn to use it is fantastic. I don't know why I don't use it more often at home.

    Agreed. And with no electrics to worry about you could leave it in a camping trailer with no worries. I use it onboard my boat regularly and as you say Barry, it makes a superb brew- not at the level of a Giotto or other similar E 61 machine but I'd confidently say it produces a better coffee than say a Silvia or similar. Other stove tops just don't get anywhere near it IMHO, it's like anything- you get what you pay for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kat77 View Post
    Some of the hand operated grinders are very small and robust and can produce a good grind if you are willing to put in the elbow grease.
    Lido produces a superb and consistent grind with its conical burrs. You dont get many things built as good as Lido these days

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    We have our camper van now. I've decided to look for a 2nd hand Bacchi. Will start a thread in the market place section

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    think I need 1 more post...

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    So I've now bought a Bacchi off a forum member and still need a few more goes to get the hang of it. It needs a much finer grind than my BES900, that's for sure, about 3 clicks finer on a smart grinder. I think once I master grind and technique it will be great. Unfortunately it gets quite hot and a shot takes around 6 minutes, so not easy to continually produce shots to get it right.

    I'm now looking for a manual grinder to keep in the camper trailer. We only think we will get around 20 days a year away in the camper so nothing too expensive, was thinking a Hario or Porlex based on a little research. Any other recomendations or a preference between Hario and Porlex? I'm a little concerned about reviews of the porlex saying the ceramic burrs crack, but also know a bad experience is more likely to reach the net than a satisfactory one.

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    What does are you using Blybo? I can't compare to a Breville, but I tend to go a touch coarser and higher dose for the Baachi than my E61

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    Quote Originally Posted by blybo View Post

    I'm a little concerned about reviews of the porlex saying the ceramic burrs crack, but also know a bad experience is more likely to reach the net than a satisfactory one.
    Can only speak from personal experience, but I've had a Porlex for close to 2 years. During this time it's had almost daily use without any problem with the burrs.

    You of course need to be very careful if you disassemble the burrs to clean. Any ceramic burr is likely to crack or break if dropped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View Post
    What does are you using Blybo? I can't compare to a Breville, but I tend to go a touch coarser and higher dose for the Baachi than my E61
    Can't tell you in absolute terms. I use the scoop that came with my bean storage container. 1 level scoop per shot, same as with the BES 900. I followed a you tube video that said chop grounds into the basket and level off without tamping, then let the shower screen/outlet piece tamp it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blybo View Post
    Can't tell you in absolute terms. I use the scoop that came with my bean storage container. 1 level scoop per shot, same as with the BES 900. I followed a you tube video that said chop grounds into the basket and level off without tamping, then let the shower screen/outlet piece tamp it down.
    I basically experimented for a while, and ended out with a grind setting that was either identical to that on my M2M or 1 click coarser, and with a dose b/w 17.5-19g. Obviously the beans and roast depth play a part (as does your palate!). From memory, on a Porlex mini my grind setting was either 6 or 7 clicks from zero.

    Enjoy the ride....they are a great machine.



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