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Thread: Pesado Portafilter Design

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    Pesado Portafilter Design

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    I bought a Pesado portafilter and basket from dodgy x a year ago.

    I noticed that the o-ring on the spout needed replacing so I contacted the distributor at commercial link removed as per Site Posting Policy

    They said that they could either supply the o-rings free or offer a discounted version of the new design head, as I wasn't 100% happy. I was quite polite and they volunteered. The new spout and head are paired so it wasn't possible to say just replace the spout.

    They also included a spare seal for my Wega just in case which was nice. They included a courier bag to send back my head and filter. I suspect they want to show this to the manufacturer.

    The o-ring was to correctly position the spout and looked like a work around to me.

    Anyway, the new one I have taken a photo of as it is a work of art. The position of the spout can be altered by the use of the very large allen key supplied, the hole of which is the exit for the coffee. It means as the seal wears you can angle the spout however you like.

    I have attached a picture.

    Mungo impressed.
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    Pesado Portafilter Design

    Hi wattgn. Sounds like a good result. Do you have a pic of what the older PF looks like for comparison?

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    Yeah I saw some of the new Pesado PFs in a shop a couple of months ago and they looked amazing.

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    Original Pesado with o-ring

    This is the original. Nice unit but the o-ring is to keep the spout facing you rather than away (if you remove the o-ring).

    It isn't a bad design but deficient in comparison with the fantastic design of the new one which is simply AWESOME.
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    So now convertible to bottomless?

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    I have zero interest in bottomless portafilters. Just me. I love the spouts. Beautiful and you can split pours if you need to.

    I know that they have nice bottomless ones too and they make an array of nice handle designs including wood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LeroyC View Post
    Yeah I saw some of the new Pesado PFs in a shop a couple of months ago and they looked amazing.
    Yeah, Leroy. They really are and they are worth every penny of what they ask for them. I just love it when someone nails a design like this and hasn't cut any corners when it comes to quality. Their tampers are really nice too.

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    i know this is an old thread, but i have dealt with pesado a couple of times now and agree, their service is second to none.
    That they also make a brilliant product is a big bonus.
    I now have 2 of their portafilters and their tamper and cant see me changing to anything else.
    Also with their modular design, you can change colour combinations as the mood takes you
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    Hi John, I just received my portafilter today, it is beautiful, but it is too tight in the group, did you have to replace the group head seal when you got yours?

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    Jono, i run a 6mm seal and both my naked and double spout one fit fine, though the double spout one is a little tighter then the naked.
    Did you get it direct from pesado or elsewhere?? maybe just be sure they sent you the correct one.
    Though one e-mail to them am sure will get it all sorted, and they answer very quickly to emails during their business hours
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnA View Post
    Jono, i run a 6mm seal and both my naked and double spout one fit fine, though the double spout one is a little tighter then the naked.
    Did you get it direct from pesado or elsewhere?? maybe just be sure they sent you the correct one.
    Though one e-mail to them am sure will get it all sorted, and they answer very quickly to emails during their business hours
    Thanks a lot JohnA, I think we'll get it sorted pretty easily, they were able to get back to me straight away, I'm just waiting on a reply today and then I'm sure things will be all ok.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jono_Willmer View Post
    Thanks a lot JohnA, I think we'll get it sorted pretty easily, they were able to get back to me straight away, I'm just waiting on a reply today and then I'm sure things will be all ok.
    No such luck, I'm still trying to get things sorted, but the response I received last night was less than professional. If things are sorted I'll let you know, but things aren't looking good. I'll post the emails I've received soon if I don't get a favourable outcome, but I'd like to give them one last chance to sort things out before I disclose everything.

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    Let me know what your outcome is.

    Iíve just received a naked pesado portafilter and have found the same thing, still seals but super tight and only turns a small amount compared to before.

    Will shoot off an email tonight.

    Cheers
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    wow interesting guys, my 2 lock in at virtually the same spot as my original la marzocco handles
    hopefully you guys can get it sorted

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    Baskets? I have VSTs and a coffeeparts non branded naked PF, the VST works correctly in the group locking nicely at 12 o'clock, the blind basket used for flushing, that is stock Rocket, swings around a lot further past the 12 position and it is due to the height of the top lip of the basket. Of course swapping group seals for a larger size for the blind basket would resolve the discrepancy and then the VST would not make the 12 position. I am not at all not worried about what position the PF handle is in for flushing and like the VST at 12 when pouring.

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    Iím running a matching pesado basket, will try swap baskets this arvo and see if it makes a difference.

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    yea i am using decent espresso baskets, and like noonar, with the blind filter the handle does swing around a little further.
    Was actually also going to order a pesado basket and can report back if that changes the position of the handle when locked in

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    The position of the handle is easy to fix with different seals, but I've got another issue that isn't easy to resolve it seems. I can't say much at the moment as I'm still negotiating a resolution, but I'm not impressed to say the least.

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    Hmmm just got a Pesado Naked PF/Pesado 18g basket and having a similar issue, PF only turns maybe 20mm until tight. Seals good but would be nice to have the 12'oclock or near abouts. Awaiting the arrival of an 8mm & 8.5mm Cafelat silicon seal so hoping that makes a difference as they are claimed to be softer and offer a bit more swing.

    I did notice on my Pesado PF lugs that lock into the E61 they had manually ground a small amount out after manufacturing/polishing, not sure if they did this after I placed my order and specified I had a Rocket machine or not. To me it seems they have ground the wrong end of the lugs which initially make contact and tighten on the E61 group fitting/design.

    Comparing it to my stock Rocket PF's which have tapered lugs, I think this may be an issue they might be making a mistake with. Otherwise couldn't be happier with the Pesado PF, beautiful design and that Wenge wood is superb Also loving the naked element and watching the oily goop come together and stream into the cup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShaunQ View Post
    Hmmm just got a Pesado Naked PF/Pesado 18g basket and having a similar issue, PF only turns maybe 20mm until tight. Seals good but would be nice to have the 12'oclock or near abouts. Awaiting the arrival of an 8mm & 8.5mm Cafelat silicon seal so hoping that makes a difference as they are claimed to be softer and offer a bit more swing.

    I did notice on my Pesado PF lugs that lock into the E61 they had manually ground a small amount out after manufacturing/polishing, not sure if they did this after I placed my order and specified I had a Rocket machine or not. To me it seems they have ground the wrong end of the lugs which initially make contact and tighten on the E61 group fitting/design.

    Comparing it to my stock Rocket PF's which have tapered lugs, I think this may be an issue they might be making a mistake with. Otherwise couldn't be happier with the Pesado PF, beautiful design and that Wenge wood is superb Also loving the naked element and watching the oily goop come together and stream into the cup.

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    Strange isn't it that they haven't got the lugs just right, the rest seems so well made to fall down in this one area?

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    Whilst i agree it must be frustrating to pay for such a premium product and it not fit ideally , i think it's important to remember there are a lot of variables at play here - there is no magic 'one size fits all' p/f . Rockets have been made for years with different group head suppliers , As machines get older the group wears , different group seals and also baskets being used can all make a difference . I almost think naked portafilter suppliers should have a disclaimer or similar explaining this to potential buyers - that different group seals may need to be fitted to get an ideal fit . I would have thought with L.M groups there would have been less variation than E61 machines , but LM machines do lock in to the left of 12 o'clock anyway
    I hope the supplier / manufacturer works with you to get a solution .
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    Quote Originally Posted by kofekitt View Post
    Whilst i agree it must be frustrating to pay for such a premium product and it not fit ideally , i think it's important to remember there are a lot of variables at play here - there is no magic 'one size fits all' p/f . Rockets have been made for years with different group head suppliers , As machines get older the group wears , different group seals and also baskets being used can all make a difference . I almost think naked portafilter suppliers should have a disclaimer or similar explaining this to potential buyers - that different group seals may need to be fitted to get an ideal fit . I would have thought with L.M groups there would have been less variation than E61 machines , but LM machines do lock in to the left of 12 o'clock anyway
    I hope the supplier / manufacturer works with you to get a solution .
    If you're referring to my comments it's not just the fitment I had issues with. I referenced that a new group seal was all that was needed, and that is understandable. Mine and another member found that the lugs had been ground down in a rather rudimental way. It looks rough and not in keeping with the finish of the rest of the portafilter. It just needed to be buffed again to return the surface to a smoother finish. If only these issues were the problems I had, it didn't end there unfortunately. I've now been refunded my money. Sadly I won't be using a Pesado portafilter.

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    Hi , wasn't referring to you in particular , just general comments to help people understand how p/f fitment isn't always simple . I completely agree that extra filing or machining after polishing isn't acceptable for such a premium product



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