La Cimbali 2 group.... is on 24/7
La Cimbali 2 group.... is on 24/7
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Last year when I wasnt working it was on 0600 - 2359.
Now that Im emplyed again its on around 0530 for my morning cuppa.
It goes off then (timer) about 1130 so my wifes had time for a tea or two.
It then goes back on to welcome me home in the evening and off about 2330.
Weekends it back to 0600-2359.
Turn it off if you are not using it....that goes for all domestic and semi-commercials.
As far as I remember the Domobar is fitted with the small pressurestat as fitted to almost all semi commercials. The contact points in the microswitch attached are *minute* compared to those in commercial size pressurestats fitted to regular size commercial machines.
If you leave it on, the contacts do their job, hour after hour, every day. opening closing etc etc etc ad infinitum.
So whether you made coffee or not, the designed in "service life" of a very small component is ticking itself away on you, for no gain on your part if the machine is not actually being used to make coffee.
When left on like this we generally see them come in anytime soon after about 12 to 15 months, the pressurestat (or infact the microswitch attached) fails due to the points pitting and burning, it costs you money to repair and more importantly, loss of your machine for however long it takes for the service to be done.
These machines are not meant to be left on all the time unless actually being used, and their real warm up time due to their small size is quite fast.....
As a point of interest I leave my in home Diadema Junior Plus on between breakfast and lunctime only as that is when I drink coffee. It is off from lunchtime until next morning. Management in this way kind of maximises the service life of the components given a certain convenience in leaving the machine on for "instant" service only during the times I am likely to imbibe!
I leave mine on more than I should. Often it is on all day. Although I should be turning it off, I never know when Ill want a coffee.
Most weekdays its only on for about 1 - 1.5 hours in the late afternoon.
Weekends it usually is on for about 1.5 hrs in the morning and again later in the afternoon,
apart from that, mostly off.
Generally I like to let it warm up and stabilise for about an hour if I can,
usually seems to pour a bit better.
Originally Posted by Fresh_Coffee link=1186040328/0#4 date=1186093682
Good point FC.
I agree it makes little sense to leave the machine on for hours on end when not in actual use.
It is worth noting that the actual reheat time is much faster than normal if the machine has been in use (and turned off) within 4 to 5 hours due to the thermal mass of the unit itself. A good flush of the group / water / steam wand as soon as the boiler is up to pressure further shortens the time to full operating temp.
I bought a Kambrook electronic / programmable timer that can accommodate multiple on/off programs. *Good value for ~$27!
Weekdays - On 5:00 am / Off 10:00 am
Weekends - On 6:00 am / Off 6:00 pm (were a lot more prone to visitors dropping in on weekends *:))
I also like mine on for a bit before i use it then off it goes. Usually under an hour in the morning and arvo (but sometimes in the evening as well). ;)Originally Posted by Bullitt link=1186040328/0#6 date=1186111458
Plus they aint cheap to run.
As has been discussed in other threads here they arent as expensive to run as you might think. Electricity cost for a 2 group commercial machine left on 24/7 is only about $20-$25 a month.Originally Posted by Skamp link=1186040328/0#10 date=1186448764
As much as people may want there to be one right answer, there isnt. The right answer is as different as the people asking it are. Each and every situation has to be looked at individually and a determination made for the specific situation.
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I put in this way
it costs me approx $2.50 - $3.00 for a good coffee, my consumption is around 5 a day at work, more when Im on my 4 days off shift, sooo theres minimum 50 per 4 day shift - when my machine is working I tend not to buy anymore as I can hold out till I get home, when at home that figure would be higher, so if a machine is going to cost 20-25 per onth to run plus say 1 kilo per week used at around 10 per kilo i think leaving mine on would work out cheaper!
Agreed Javaphile: about $1 a day for electricity has to be condidered relatively inexpensive.
My monstrous 3-phase air conditioner costs about $2 AN HOUR to run, central heating about the same. $1 of petrol will drive me some 4 kilometres in light traffic.
From memory of calculations I made months ago, leaving the coffee machine on all day is only marginally dearer than for 15 hours -- a matter of cents.
Hmmm, I guess some people still dont believe in Global Warming *>:(
I have mine on gas for about 4 or 5 min, 4 times a day + about 3 minutes worth of microwaving ;D
Global warming? :-/ It bypassed Melbourne this winter.
but didnt howard say there wasnt a problem with global warming ;pOriginally Posted by mylesau link=1186040328/0#14 date=1186556665
Hhhmmm....I guess some people havent read all the previous posts discussing this issue on here. If they had they would see that some people are saving energy by leaving their espresso machines on all day, or even 24/7. Some are saving 5 times or more the cost of the electricity of running the machine, even with it being a big commercial 2 group. :)Originally Posted by mylesau link=1186040328/0#14 date=1186556665
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Fair cop Javaphile, but there in lies another question of why youd need one of them at home? I seriously do not want an answer to that question though. :-XOriginally Posted by Javaphile link=1186040328/15#17 date=1186565066
but but but :D
Oh, that was but not butt ;D
The Sunbeam EM6910 turns itself off after 30 minutes of no activity.
My Saeco stays on all the time, but goes into a "sleep mode" after 10 mins, and when I want to use it again I just push a button and it goes through a "wash and rinse" mode, which takes about a minute, and then its ready to use.
I like this function on it, it allows me to steam milk while it "wakes up" :)