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    Do I dare mention Nespresso on these pages?

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    Hi Everyone,

    Im considering a Nespresso system for work, as it will be a shared machine, and will make it easier to purchase coffee... people can just buy the coffee that theyll use, and it will most likely stay cleaner without coffee grounds to clean up.

    Does anyone have any experience with a Nespresso? Is it at all comparable to grinding yourself? Yes, I know it kills the romance, just like the screw-top does for wine, but is it still ok to drink?

    Let me know what you think. Is there a better solution for sharing a coffee machine at work?

    Cheers

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    Welcome to Coffee Snobs (no one said so after your first post).

    Screw tops for wine and Nespresso are not a good comparison.

    You still get good wine in a bottle with a screw top.

    Nespresso pods DO NOT compare at all to freshly ground coffee.
    Ground coffee is stale after 3 minutes.
    Work it out.

    And dont kid yourself about the cleanliness. People are pigs.
    I gave a training session a few weeks ago at work and emphasised cleaning before even starting on how to make coffee.

    If I dont check it every time I walk past Id hate to think how grotty it would get.
    Not everyone listened.

    So factor in a few minutes each day for YOU to clean whatever equipment you get; Nespresso or anything else.

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    How much of a budget do you have?
    How many people will be using the equipment?

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    Hi Josh,
    I have had a few shots from the Nespresso machines they were "ok", better than instant but certainly nothing to get excited about.

    There is bugger-all coffee in one of those shots and they are expensive per kilo. The machines are cheap though... like razor marketing, give away the handle and sell blades forever more.

    You might be better off with a grinder, kettle and plunger?
    It makes great coffee and the outlay is low. Once you have enough interest then maybe get the "social club" to look at some of the more industrial super-auto machines which help keep the mess down.

    How many people in the office?


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    Thanks for the welcome, Thunder. Not sure about the budget at this stage... I havent found out how many people are interested yet, but I estimate at least 20. If everyone put in $25 to start, that gives a budget of $500. Otherwise I could put up more myself, and leave it as an honour system to put, say, $1 in a tin every time you have a coffee until the machine pays itself off. This would go down ok I assume, since the coffee shop downstairs charges $3 a coffee.

    Andy, we already have a plunger, however I dont particularly enjoy the taste of plunger coffee, and it also contains at least 3X the caffeine than espresso. I suppose one could adjust the blend using decaf beans to reduce the caffeine, but I still wouldnt enjoy the taste. I suppose the biggest reason to get an espresso machine is to satisfy myself. If that can be subsidised by others who also want cheaper coffees, all the better!

    As for automatic machines, I purchased a Jura for my parents who wanted something more automatic than their Bezzera B35 (yes, I know its sad :(), but I had to open it up and tweak the factory settings to get the grind finer for a greater than 3 second pour. No doubt I voided the warranty, but the coffees that come out now are really quite good. I dont imagine that my fellow workmates would appreciate me hacking their new machine however.

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    hi josh
    i have had quite a few shots from a nespresso machine. mal experience mirrors mine in that there are quite a few design probs and other general probs...
    not enough coffee per capsule, old stale ground coffee, that is loose in the pod so i would assume out goes even extraction, water comes out too fast (espresso in 7 secs) too expensive for what you get. and taste? i will only drink them with milk and even them, i swear, i have thrown out quite a few after two sips - literally undrinkable...

    and im not the biggest snob in the world, really...
    i would try and find something else if it was me... ;)
    aaron

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    What about a decent grinder and a presso?

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    Had a look at the Presso website, and the video shows a guy extracting in 3 seconds, so Im not too sure about how it would stack up with a finer grind. Would it be too difficult to extract? The other thing is that it looks nice, and might grow legs.

    Nice idea though...

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    yeah good point about growing legs, i didnt really think about that. Ignore the vid on the website though it really doesnt do it justice,with the right grind/dose/tamp you can get a great coffee out of the presso

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    Sounds like youve used it a bit...

    Do you press it all the way down, and then it extracts slowly (assuming a finer grind than the video), or is it harder to press, and takes more time to press due to the pressure build up?

    I guess what Im asking is if you have to time it yourself, or is it kind of automatic in that sense?

    Looks like a great toy to take camping!



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    Hey Javajosh,

    I own a presso and use it quite a bit. If you use it like the manufacture recommends, then pretty much add 30-60 ml of water, and press, the most you can do is stop the shot if it starts to blond. With those instructions, the pressure is pretty regulated by the compressed air above the water, but below the piston head. Does that make sense?

    If your interested, Ive written a review on the presso with a "work around" that i use to get a better extraction. Let me know what you think.

    http://www.coffeegeek.com/reviews/vacpots/pressomanual/Iconiq

    Des

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    My first machine was a Nespresso, and initially I loved it. I particularly adored the bright jewel coloured capsules that had me wondering "which coffee do I feel like this time?" Then I started wanting the coffee to be just a bit stronger - the capsules hold 5g, industry standard for coffee is 7g. The price finished it in the end - around 60 cents a capsule, that was two years ago. I found this site while I was searching for information on refilling the capsules and was quickly hooked.

    I think Nespresso can have a place in a very streamlined household. In an office, however, the capsules can still be messy, the milk will always be a problem and there is the question of who will pay the cost of the capsules.

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    I thought Id better go and try one for myself, and heres what I found.

    1. The crema was fake like the crema from a pressurised filter.
    2. The coffee tasted alright, but not like an espresso should.
    3. The cup it was served in was small, and although the strength was ok for the given volume, for a regular sized coffee it would have made the coffee very weak.
    4. Coffee was indeed loose inside the capsule, so not really an espresso.
    5. Given all the above, very little value for the price of each coffee.

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    I tried one and I hated it! If youre on a limited budget, think about a Sunbeam EM6910 or small (new) Gaggia, and if you have to, use pressurised baskets for those whore determined to use the pods.

    What happened to the BZ35? That and training sounds ideal!

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    Not sure if I can convince my workmates to pay for a 6910, although that would be sweet.

    As for the BZ35, keep an eye in the sales listings. Ill be posting it up soon.





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    Show them the price of an Expobar or ECM and then they might go for the 6910.



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