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    la Cimbali M29

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    Hello to you all * *:)

    My first post; Looking at getting a La Cimbali M29 2 *group Start( semi auto) or Select(auto) Compact

    Ive been reading post archives re: manual vs. auto and Im thinking that "the less electrics the better".

    Now my questions are 1. What sort of money for these units new.
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 2. Is this way over the top for a home unit making 6-8 a day.
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 3. How much noise does the boiler produce while idle(most of the day!)
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 4. Will all this heat with not much water through it in my situation,lead to the
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * pipes and nozzels caking up with evaporated water.
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 5. How much heat will I get into the room ...... will I cook here in Cairns !(and end up wishing
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Id bought something quite small)
    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * 6 . Can anyone guess the Kw/year consumption.... 300 days for 14hrs.... will I be sorry.
    * * * * * * * finally * * * * *7. Should I get something else .
    Thankyou for you time,

    Neil. * * * * * * * * *

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    Re: la Cimbali M29

    It would depend on how many people you are making coffee for as to whether this unit is to large. If you are making one or two then I would say you are over gunned - but then again if that type of unit is what you want and you only want to make one coffee a day welcome to this very appropriate website. ::) It was made for you.

    The heat from coffee machines (unless you are in a very small flat) would not change the temperature noticeably in Cairns - just turn up the air conditioner. ;)

    I cant help you with the rest as I have never used the equipment you mentioned.

    Have you much experience with Espresso Machines??

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    Re: la Cimbali M29

    Hi Stan,

    The house is large and high ceilings,but heat is heat I suppose.

    Coffee will *just be for the two of us( sad, I know *) ,but Ive finally had enough of the
    "Sundream thermo sock". *I bought a Nemox CG lux grinder in DJs a couple of years
    ago and have found there is no going back to ready ground rubbish. Now its time to jump
    in the deep end and get serious. Another grinder too (I hear posters thinking) will probably
    have to follow soon.
    Im not roasting yet ,as have found Lavazza Oro beans to be to my liking so far.

    Cheers, *Neil. :)

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    The grinder is the way to go first. I got the Mazzer when I was using the EM4800C and the change in the coffee was very noticable. Identify what will best suit the machine you will want in the future. I would suggest that for 2 the machine you were looking at is overkill but hey there are some here with bigger set ups. Most here would suggest HX machines but you are pretty limited here in Cairns due to lack of suppliers, with a limited range. Some of the sponsors here may have service agents in the area, as the only concern I have is the cost of a warranty return (Cost around $50 too get the Mazzer up here from a sponsor in Victoria, I would hate to see the cost for an 18Kg Machine. The freight is a killer. I havent started looking yet as I am saving up for a Better Machine. WALLET WARNING - (Upgraditis is catching on this web site). The 6910 was a stop gap (not going to bad though).

    Roasting your own is definitely the best way to get fresh coffee even with a few stuffups , I mean experiments you cant get fresher. Roasting can be quite cheap I set up for less that $150 with a corretto and I bought a new Bread maker (not very patient). The cost of setting up will be recovered by the reduction in the cost of the final product over the year (depending on how much you drink.) There are a couple of great local roasters on the tablelands if you go for short trips to relieve the stress.

    I dont think you will notice any change in ambient temperature from a machine as the heat generated in minimal.

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    I just googled a La Cimbali M29 - That is one impressive machine but it is 20 amp if you were going to put this in a house you would have to have special wiring done or get the machine modified. *Standard home use is 10 amp. It is also a plumbed in model so you would ahve to run pipes/hoses to it from a water pipe.

    Regarding build up in the machines from having them switched on all the time - Cairns Water isnt to bad but I filter all the water I put through my machine. *regular descale should alleviate any issues with build up.

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    Re: la Cimbali M29

    A 2 group Cimbali puts out a significant amount of heat. The uninsulated boilers and groupheads in these are excellent radiators. When they are up to temp and stable they are pumping out roughly 400 watts of heat non-stop.

    If you are running an air conditioner the electrical cost of running one of these large commercial machines is doubled as the vast majority of the energy used by the espresso machine goes into heating the boiler. That energy/heat is then put into the air where it must be removed by the air conditioner. It will take more energy to remove that heat than was originally there as no AC is 100% efficient. Thus, whatever the cost to run the espresso machine itself is, the true cost is actually double that if the machine is in an air conditioned space.


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    Re: la Cimbali M29

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    Thanks Javaphile. *The Idle heat output is something a novice has no way of guessing. I appreciate your thoughts. *:)

    Neil.



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