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    La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

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    Hi,
    have recently purchased a LA Cimbali M21 Junior DTI , the machine is from America. I was wondering if anyone has experience with making these machines compliant to an Australian standard.
    thanks if you can help,
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    Re: La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

    I have had the same problems with darkroom photo gear. The short answer is to use a transformer. All other options are far more complex than they are worth.

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    Otzi ia right on the money. I had a Gaggia that I bought while I lived in the US and when I came back to Australia I looked into converting it....too hard. Best bet is to buy a transformer.

    You need to be careful though as coffee machine pull a lot of amps you need to check the amp rating on the machine and buy a matching transformer. Any of the small travel type one will overheat and die within minutes of being hooked to a coffee machine.

    I bought mine from a Dick Smith store in Melbourne. Down side is that its pretty chunky and takes up a fair bit of room

    approx 300mm X 120mm X 120mm

    I still have it if and dont use it if you want to buy it. But if your in WA(assuming from your nickname) the freight will kill you so might be better to buy locally

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    Re: La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

    Even if you get the voltage down to 110 the cycles will be wrong, 60Hz instead of the 50hz in the US, *This kills things with motors but you might be alright with an element.

    Its a 15amp machine in the US yeah? that might be an issue as well.

    Hope it was cheap,

    I bought a Kitchenaid mixer back from the states and swapped an Australian motor into it, was a better option than running a transformer for it. Still came out ahead on that one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4D4B5C574D4A5250390 link=1257761892/3#3 date=1259664151
    Even if you get the voltage down to 110 the cycles will be wrong, 60Hz instead of the 50hz in the US, *This kills things with motors but you might be alright with an element.

    Its a 15amp machine in the US yeah? that might be an issue as well.

    Hope it was cheap,

    I bought a Kitchenaid mixer back from the states and swapped an Australian motor into it, was a better option than running a transformer for it. Still came out ahead on that one.
    Sorry.. 230V 50Hz *(10A) in Australia and 120V 60 Hz (15A?) *in the US.. - Nominal voltage


    Australia started to move from 240V to 230 a few years ago... So the standard would have us believe.

    While you may not blow an element.. Depending on its voltage rating and current requirements etc... Even if it did work it could be well out side of specs.. FIRE hazard..

    If it is not rated for the country your in... NONT use it...

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    Re: La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

    tanx AM, where would you be without my posts to correct? :-[ ;D

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    Re: La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

    Quote Originally Posted by 5A5C4B405A5D45472E0 link=1257761892/5#5 date=1259665313
    tanx AM, where would you be without my posts to correct? *:-[ ;D
    Just playing the Devils Advocate and attempting to keep things on an even keel ;) :D


    And if you and others pick up some tricks and tips ... Then great ;)

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    Re: La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

    Quote Originally Posted by 1A39230117560 link=1257761892/0#0 date=1257761892
    Hi,
    have recently purchased a LA Cimbali M21 Junior DTI , the machine is from America. I was wondering if anyone has experience with making these machines compliant to an Australian standard.
    Quote Originally Posted by 39222C3F560 link=1257761892/1#1 date=1259455465
    I have had the same problems with darkroom photo gear. The short answer is to use a transformer. All other options are far more complex than they are worth.
    While a suitably rated Transformer (Txfmr) will ensure that your machine will operate normally if everything with it is OK, it does not guarantee that the machine will be compliant with Australian Standards.

    Even if does happen to comply (which would be extremely lucky), the size of the Txfmr you would need to buy will be HUGE and very heavy. You would probably need to budget for a 2.0KVA (1500W), 230V/120V Step-down Txfmr which can cost you upwards of $500. Some info about suitable devices here... http://www.tortech.com.au/stepdown.html

    Mal.

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    Re: La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

    Quote Originally Posted by 5157404B51564E4C250 link=1257761892/3#3 date=1259664151
    Even if you get the voltage down to 110 the cycles will be wrong,
    Forgot about the pump, the different hertz might kill the pump much faster than if it was running at the Hertz it was designed for :(

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    Re: La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

    Quote Originally Posted by 5553444F55524A48210 link=1257761892/8#8 date=1259712192
    Forgot about the pump, the different hertz might kill the pump much faster than if it was running at the Hertz it was designed for *:(
    Pump will get a little bit hotter but should still work without any trouble. The main issue is with the Voltage...

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    Re: La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

    Sorry to kick this old thread again, but I presume a US grinder is out of the question? *300 watt.

    The Cimbali CMH has quite taken my fancy but there is little hope of getting a high voltage one here. Coffex dont even bring in the Max. Any one looking for an opening?

    LouWA = What did you do in the end.

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    As an aside does any one know how to increase print size on this forum? Not browser increase, thats already done. I cant read it. *:(

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    Re: La Cimbali M21 Junior DTI

    Quote Originally Posted by 5B404E5D340 link=1257761892/10#10 date=1260409369
    As an aside does any one know how to increase print size on this forum? Not browser increase, thats already done. I cant read it.
    If your mouse has a scroll-wheel, hold down Ctrl key and turn your scroll-wheel up or down as required to increase or decrease font size.



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