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    Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

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    Ive had my VBM DS for a couple of years now and I love it .. BUT my only gripe is its size. *Im still renting and its always been a challenge to find a place with a big enough kitchen (its always had its own trolley, Ive never had a place with a deep enough bench).

    If I were to downsize, the Domo Jnr is the obvious choice. I only just recently heard of its existance (on these forums of course), which makes me wonder if there are other options Im not aware of? *According to the specs the Domo Jnr is 35cm deep so Id be aiming at that as a maximum.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    The Domobar Jr is certainly a lovely compact little thing. Ive also been considering machines with small footprints and dont know of any other HX machine that compares. Probably the closest is the BZ07 25cm (w) x 42.5cm (d) x 37.5cm (h)

    The Jr is 22.5cm (w) x 35cm (d) x 40cm (h)

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Youve probably only just heard of it, because its only been around for about 6-9 months. If you love your domobar super, then you will love the junior. Its very similar albeit smaller boiler and smaller tank. I love mine. I went from Sunbeam 6910 to the vbm junior and its actually smaller than the sunbeam. If youre pushed for size then nothing can beat the vbm junior.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Ive heard the Diadema Junior has a pretty small footprint for a HX machine.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Yeah I did see the Diadema Junior through the other recent topic VBM Jnr vs Diadema Jnr, it seems to be about halfway between the super and vbn junior in size, and similar to the BZ07, possibly still a bit on the big side. *

    It certainly puts it into perspective to know that its a smaller footprint than the Sunbeam. *

    Does the VBM junior come with the option of the black case or is it only avabilable in full stainless steel?

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    I have not seen a Jr in black unlike some other VBM models but best contact a sponsor like Di Bartoli or Jetblack or cuppacoffee if youre in Sydney.

    If depth is your greatest concern then you could consider the Bezerra BZ99 which is only 38cm deep. *Not as pretty as your Super but from all reports its a bullet-proof machine. *

    After reading your OP I went and measured the depth of my kitchne benches; a super would hang off the edge.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Quote Originally Posted by 535E5D44420608310 link=1274614424/4#4 date=1274623418
    Does the VBM junior come with the option of the black case or is it only avabilable in full stainless steel? *
    The Domobar Junior is stainless steel only. Dennis has one on his bench at cuppacoffee if youd like a look/play

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Quote Originally Posted by 71707A697772681B0 link=1274614424/5#5 date=1274639423

    After reading your OP I went and measured the depth of my kitchne benches; a super would hang off the edge.
    Yep my super has lived on an Ikea kitchen trolley since I got it. Its always been a matter of whether the trolley will then fit in kitchen (in my last flat it was almost in the living area). * :)

    Thanks for your suggestions guys. I think Im just gonna have to bite the bullet and sell the machine and take it from there.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Depending on what your current coffee usage is consider a Lever for small footprint you wont beat it you also can drop from steam to shot like the HX. Not for everyone but while you are renting might be worth considering it and pocket the change over buying a smaller HX.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    I went from a VBM to a Elektra Semi Automatica which has a tiny footprint and is an amazing machine. The steam wand is fantastic but if you are preparing many milk drinks in the one session then its hopeless.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Quote Originally Posted by 595852415F5A40330 link=1274614424/1#1 date=1274615463
    The Domobar Jr is certainly a lovely compact little thing. *Ive also been considering machines with small footprints and dont know of any other HX machine that compares. *Probably the closest is the BZ07 25cm (w) x 42.5cm (d) x 37.5cm (h)

    The Jr is 22.5cm (w) x 35cm (d) x 40cm (h) *
    I could be wrong ... Ive never seen a Jnr in the flesh and I might be just getting confused ... but I think it was established here that the depth of the Jnr is closer to 40cm.

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1272029845/18#18


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    Quote Originally Posted by 372B3D5F0 link=1274614424/9#9 date=1274693492
    I went from a VBM to a Elektra Semi Automatica which has a tiny footprint and is an amazing machine. The steam wand is fantastic but if you are preparing many milk drinks in the one session then its hopeless.
    Interesting. I never have a problem doing continuous milk drinks with my semi auto Elektra. Maybe Im just slow.

    But for a small footprint, quality HX machine I reckon the Diadema Junior is hard to beat. A compact, impressive package for sure.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Hello Dan,

    FYI I have taken some measurements for you to compare with in your search for a machine with smaller footprint:

    Diadema Junior Plus Levetta:
    Measurement along the outside edges of the feet front to back is 391mm

    If you the feet are refitted into the more rearward mounting points, this reduces by 50mm to 341 mm.

    For comparison the Splendor measures up at 338mm


    I also took some photos in the showroom with your model side by side with the the Junior, and then the Splendor. All of them are hard up against the back wall, showing the difference at the front.

    If you contact me off line I can send them to you.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Quote Originally Posted by 5D544754435243545C50310 link=1274614424/11#11 date=1274710235
    Interesting. I never have a problem doing continuous milk drinks with my semi auto Elektra. Maybe Im just slow.
    Actually your right. The recovery is fast so in everyday use its not bad but still a step down from the VBM which seems to have unlimited steam power.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Quote Originally Posted by 3E2234560 link=1274614424/9#9 date=1274693492
    I went from a VBM to a Elektra Semi Automatica which has a tiny footprint and is an amazing machine. The steam wand is fantastic but if you are preparing many milk drinks in the one session then its hopeless.
    The Elektra is a sexy sexy machine. *Although I wonder if Id be trading depth issues for height issues! *;)

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Quote Originally Posted by 5755594456515858340 link=1274614424/10#10 date=1274707863

    I could be wrong ... Ive never seen a Jnr in the flesh and I might be just getting confused ... but I think it was established here that the depth of the Jnr is closer to 40cm.

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1272029845/18#18
    Its surprising that there is such a discrepancy between the specs and actual depth - I just measured my super as a sanity check and its 530mm as per ECA specs (that includes 25mm or so for the handle on the drip tray). So Im guessing the Jnr would just fit on a 380mm bench.

    I know its only 5cm .. but bench space is critical for us urban types. Especially those who would take good coffee over a house in Sydney.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Quote Originally Posted by 515C5F4640040A330 link=1274614424/15#15 date=1274791573
    So Im guessing the Jnr would just fit on a 380mm bench.
    I just measured my junior, the specs are wrong, it actually is 42cm deep (in total not including the bulge for the handle on the drip tray) as per coffeeshots post above. So now I guess that would change the goal posts and you should consider other machines with a depth of 40cm or so, eg Diadema etc.

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    Re: Downsizing from VBM Domobar Super

    Quote Originally Posted by 01060D0D061717630 link=1274614424/16#16 date=1274792968
    I just measured my junior, the specs are wrong, it actually is 42cm deep (in total not including the bulge for the handle on the drip tray) as per coffeeshots post above. So now I guess that would change the goal posts and you should consider other machines with a depth of 40cm or so, eg Diadema etc.
    Oh and I was that close to having my mind set on the Jnr based on a purely objective, mathematical decision. Its always the way! ;) *I think I will need to go and inspect them up close when the time comes. *Cheers for the measurements though!



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