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    Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    I have just replaced a faulty safety valve on my ECM Giotto. The safety valve was very tight and in trying to loosten it, the wrench slipped and broke of the thermostat. Normally the thermostat screws into the boiler but the section that is screwed into the hole in the boiler has broken off, thus filling the hole. Therefore I can not just replace the thermostat as there is no longer place to screw it in. I have attached a picture. Can anyone help? Does anyone have any suggestions? What can I do?
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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    I would be thinking, drill it out and re tap it, but then again I am not a professional and this could ruin it, and I would only do that as a last measure.

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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    AM where are you?

    It may be a little fiddly/tricky but Im sure its do-able. If youre not very handy just take it to a pro.

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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    Quote Originally Posted by 212D242427270C21232927420 link=1273833995/0#0 date=1273833995
    *Can anyone help? *Does anyone have any suggestions?
    AND

    Quote Originally Posted by 282923302E2B31420 link=1273833995/2#2 date=1273836492
    It may be a little fiddly/tricky but Im sure its do-able. *If youre not very handy just take it to a pro.
    So where are you located... coffeeNcake

    1: Are you not happy that as a Qualified person you took the time to disconnect and to de energise..

    2: Zap BANG YA DEAD....


    Yes it can be fixed in about 5 min *;D

    What... Ya not next door ?

    Who ya gunna call then...




    A: New item required.

    b: Good quality metal twist drill that is smaller than the thread

    c: Small pistol drill or a hand drill

    d: Small easy out

    e: Maybe a dremal to grind flat prior to marking the centre part for the drill

    OR even a fine centre punch to use as a punch

    OR a cutting blade on a dremal and make a slot for a driver...

    OR A drill and tap to suit the replacement part

    Or .......

    Many ways to skin a cat but ya need to have it in ya hands to work out the best way...

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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    I live in Melbourne.
    cNc

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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    Mate AM has the right ideas as usual, an easy out or cutting a slot for a screwdriver sound like great ideas but if you are in any doubt at all about having a go at it then give Chris a Talk Coffee a call for help seeing as you are in Melbourne. They boys at 9Bar would be another option.

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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    Quote Originally Posted by 383B28283F365A0 link=1273833995/5#5 date=1273848827
    They boys at 9Bar would be another option.
    Couple of excellent service and switched on people there and access to all the tools is a big plus...

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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    Thank you all. I think I will get someone with more experience than me to do it. The scew is very fine and I dont want to make a bigger mess of it than what has already been done.

    I called Chris today - he also felt that getting the tiny screw out was out of his area of comfort.

    I tried to call 9Bar but as it was Saturday they were closed. I will try to call them on monday.

    If 9Bar can not do it does anyone know someone in Melbourne to do this sort of fiddly job.

    Thank you
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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    I would think that any fitter & turner or machine shop could do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 614D4E4B4C7D75220 link=1273833995/8#8 date=1273886335
    I would think that any fitter & turner or machine shop could do it.
    Ya ... Just make sure they are into fine work and not mining gear :-)

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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    Another vote for the "ezy out" from me. Years of repairing motorcycles means that I always have a few kicking around.

    FYI they look like...


    I once had and ezy-out breakoff inside the drilled bolt... shudder... it then took hours to repair because of the hardness of the ezy-out.

    Pity they dont make an ezy-out-ezy-out
    ;)

    If you are not comfortable doing this yourself then professional help is certainly best.

    9Bar will do it easily... its the sort of thing that they come across all the time in the repair game. Give em a hollar on Monday and Im sure they will be able to help.

    8-)

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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    Quote Originally Posted by 1D3238255C0 link=1273833995/10#10 date=1273900450
    Pity they dont make an ezy-out-ezy-out
    giggled like a schoolgirl..

    OH so true...

    Tight Oh so tight... Now do I give a bit extra or do I undo, and go up a size..

    Na... It has to come... Besides whats another fraction of a turn... It moving, I know it is...


    BUgger ^$#@^#% ^%#@%# * &^$#^%#^#%


    WHY did I just do that !!!!!!!!

    Once had 3 sets.. Now have a box of different sizes *and some have been ground down and rather short *::)

    They also make great pin punches due the their hardness...

    Quote Originally Posted by 012E2439400 link=1273833995/10#10 date=1273900450
    Years of repairing motorcycles
    Solo or club; if club, what rank ?

    Ex Sgt.

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    Re: Have I Wrecked my ECM Giotto - Help

    While they are rare as hens teeth in Australia for some bizarre reason - left hand drill bits are unbelievably good at getting the fastener out.

    The LH action plus the vibration and heat from the drill causes the fastener to come out while being drilled most of the time. *Avoids the same relationship I have with easy outs that AM has :(

    I just dont understand why these things cost $change in the US, but are seriously expensive over here!

    /Kevin



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