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    Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

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    I just bought an Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV and the standard 2-hole tip is terrible for small milk quantities.

    Anyone know where I can buy tips for an 8mm insulated "cool touch" wand?

    Coffee Parts sells a 2 hole tip, but Im not sure if this is any better than the standard tip.

    Ideally Id like to try out the Gold Pro 2 tip, but that would require an 8mm-10mm adaptor, and I cant find either of these items from anywhere in Australia.* To ship from Chris Coffee requires minimum order of $50 + $40 shipping, which seems slightly excessive for a steam tip!

    Thanks in advance,

    Tim

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Quote Originally Posted by 646073756960687367687364010 link=1331185574/0#0 date=1331185573
    I just bought an Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV and the standard 2-hole tip is terrible for small milk quantities.....

    Thanks in advance,

    Tim
    Hi Tim,

    The coffeeparts 2 hole has tiny (0.8 or 0.9mm as I recall) holes and is good to slow things down and make the job easier for those starting out.

    FWIW, the Expobar tip is actually really good. Its just a matter of learning your machine. One other method is to block one hole- with some line trimmer line for example.

    Good luck...

    Chris

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    Hi Chris,

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Im interested in your comment re the expobar 2 hole tip. Having gone from making beautiful microfoam on a Silvia, Im pretty frustrated at achieving nothing but really thin, hot milk after litres and litres of milk practicing.

    I normally steam approx 200ml milk in a 300ml motto jug. In your experience, do you think this is achievable on the standard tip? If its just me and I need to spend more time getting to know my machine, thats good to know...

    Cheers,

    Tim

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Quote Originally Posted by 5E5A494F535A52495D52495E3B0 link=1331185574/2#2 date=1331198887
    I normally steam approx 200ml milk in a 300ml motto jug.* In your experience, do you think this is achievable on the standard tip?* If its just me and I need to spend more time getting to know my machine, thats good to know...
    Hi Tim,

    Can I suggest you ask a knowledgable person to have a look at what you do? Even though you have a technique which works for the Silvia, moving up is more like a commercial and requires a different technique. If youre in Melbourne, you are welcome to pop in.

    I can and do texture in a 100ml jug using a similar tip. Its just a matter of practise. I have always said if you fight a machine, you lose. Sounds to me like you guys are fighting ;)

    Chris

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Try the water and dish soap trick for practice. YouTube it.

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Thanks for the input, all.

    I think I tracked down my issue.

    With the twin tip I could make microfoam with soapy water, could make microfoam with bonsoy, but could not for the life of me get microfoam with regular milk.

    When I started to practice on regular milk I bought a load of milk to practice on, but the store had run out of the normal brand I use so I ended up with the stores own organic milk.

    I bought some more of the regular milk I use and practised some more last night. I got my microfoam back again. not perfect, but definately close enough to convince me practise is needed rather than a new tip.

    Not sure if it was the milk, me or both, but either way Im heading on the right track. Thanks for the advice!

    Tim

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Quote Originally Posted by 6F5A57506478545D5D5E5E3B0 link=1331185574/3#3 date=1331202970
    Can I suggest you ask a knowledgable person to have a look at what you do? Even though you have a technique which works for the Silvia, moving up is more like a commercial and requires a different technique. If youre in Melbourne, you are welcome to pop in.
    Hi Chris,

    Many thanks for the offer. Id love to pop in some time, if its not a massive inconvenience. Ill drop you a PM.

    Cheers,

    Tim

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Hi Tim,* I went through exactly the same thing, as I also went from a Silvia to the Minore.* I bought the tip that coffeeparts sell and it did make a big difference, however I recently purchased the 4 hole tip that Five Senses sell.* It has much smaller holes, and has made a huge difference. I would highly recommend it.
    cheers
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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Have you guys read this:

    http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1220959662

    It has helped my results tremendously.

    Cheers

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    hi all,
    Im also having this same issue
    beautiful microfoam on the silvia,
    but now, having trouble getting it with the two hole steam tip.

    looks like the 4 hole tip is the way to go?

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Has anyone had experience with a 4 hole tip on th minore.
    The original two tip seems so hard to get the silky microfoam I was able to get with the Silvia.

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Quote Originally Posted by 674254422D0 link=1331185574/10#10 date=1338117975
    Has anyone had experience with a 4 hole tip on th minore.
    The original two tip seems so hard to get the silky microfoam I was able to get with the Silvia.
    You need to learn the machine Joyo.

    A 4 hole will make it harder, not easier.

    Suggest you block one hole until you are comfortable with the new wand.

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Quote Originally Posted by 075840565D565A5353505058545B350 link=1331185574/11#11 date=1338157508
    A 4 hole will make it harder, not easier.
    Not necessarily. It depends on the size of the holes. The 4-hole tip mentioned earlier in the thread has much smaller holes than most tips use. Ive modded my Faema to use a tip with the same 4 x 0.9mm holes as the mentioned tip, and it works great - really easy to get great microfoam with!

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Quote Originally Posted by 694247472B0 link=1331185574/12#12 date=1338182503
    Not necessarily. It depends on the size of the holes. The 4-hole tip mentioned earlier in the thread has much smaller holes than most tips use.
    Yes- you will find that it performs similarly to a 2 hole with one blocked. Its about slowing things down whilst youre learning.

    There is nothing inherently wrong with the 2 hole tip but many coming from a small single boiler find them hard to come to grips with. More often than not when a little technique is demonstrated, the problems miraculously disappear. Fight the wand and you will lose every time.* :-?

    Nevertheless, I am sure that the bits boys will happily stock them and sell them to those who feel they need em. ;)

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    Re: Replacement Steam Tips for Expobar Minore / Brewtus IV

    Thanks for the feedback,

    I understand that it might be technique, but even if it does get some mircorfoam its no where near what I could produce with Silvia

    I might try to block it first, if that fails I will try the one from five senses
    Thanks



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