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    Quality in cup with hx??

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    Hi there

    First time post, so go easy on me....


    Having the old upgraditis hit like a fever and keen to see if anyone can set me straight. Hoping some of you with experience might be able to help, as I don't want to go into a retailer and just ask as I know they will 'probably' only want to sell me something new.

    So, my question is: will upgrading to a hx from my current under 1k single boiler make me a better coffee?

    All things being equal, will I see better shots from a new machine?

    My technique is probably not too bad. I'm often pulling what I'd call very drinkable shots now, but compared to excellent cafe shots mine usually lack some body and creaminess. I'm hoping an upgrade to a 2k+ hx might improve things. The other option is a lever machine, like a la pavoni, and prepared to put in the sweat to learn.

    I don't make many shots at a time, so it's a case of getting the best out of what I've got when I do.

    Any words of wisdom?

    Cheers

    BD

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    You will get better coffee out of a heat exchange machine but and this is a big but you will do much better to start by doing a barista course in my opinion. I did one and it taught me heaps.

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    Well....

    In my opinion, not necessarily so....

    It depends on a lot of factors but mainly, it comes down to the particular design of machine (well designed or not) and what your particular requirements are. All things being equal though, if you were talking about a well designed E-61 Group machine then I'm sure you'd find it a lot easier to use and be able to produce espresso at least as good as you do now but on a more consistent basis, due to the ease of use...

    Best bet is to try and get in to a reputable specialist retailer's premises and try for yourself on a couple of different demo machines....

    Mal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dimal View Post
    Well....

    In my opinion, not necessarily so....

    It depends on a lot of factors but mainly, it comes down to the particular design of machine (well designed or not) and what your particular requirements are. All things being equal though, if you were talking about a well designed E-61 Group machine then I'm sure you'd find it a lot easier to use and be able to produce espresso at least as good as you do now but on a more consistent basis, due to the ease of use...

    Best bet is to try and get in to a reputable specialist retailer's premises and try for yourself on a couple of different demo machines....

    Mal.
    Couldn't agree more with Mal. I've just upgraded from a Silvia to a Rocket Evo, and i don't think I'm getting better shots. What is unbelievable though is the ease of use and the reproducibility. I used a naked portafilter on the silvia, and now on the Evo where I've yet to have a bad pour, whereas the Silvia was less consistent. I couldn't tell you why, but I'm sure others could give you more details. Also, with the HX the immediate steam if you're making milk based drinks is unbeatable.
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    Great feedback. Cheers. Sounds like my much loved, sometimes maligned sb might get some company. Went and had a play with a machine today and was impressed straight out of the gate. Look fwd to more of that to come.



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