Post By artman
Upgrade path from Lelit Mara - reqs < $3000 width < 33cms
Got a case of upgrade-itis. No specific need to upgrade just interested in what my potential options are.
I'm limited with space as my stand alone coffee station is quite narrow. I could comfortably cater for a machine that is up to 30cms. 33 would be absolute max.
I'm tempted by the Rocket R58 but struggling to justify the spend.
Given I have a decent HX in the Mara is there anything that could be recommended as an upgrade given my parameters?
From what I can see there is the
- Vibiemme Domobar Jnr
--- however this has no cool touch steam wand
- Expobar Minore IV
-- Price is right and specs seem OK on paper but there must be a catch somewhere?
-- Not sure if it has a cool touch wand?
-- have been reading about issues with the steam wand struggling to keep up with the steam
-- heading to the wider range for me. Width is at max
-- priciest of the options
-- dimensions are good but got no idea if this will be a good machine. Need to hold off to see early reviews
-- assuming based on what people are saying on the net the price will be < 3000
Any other options?
Any thoughts on the initial short list?
I guess if you could describe/detail your expectations of what you would consider to be the improvements you're looking for, then that might help us to help you in a more meaningful fashion...
Yeah as Mal said it'd be good to know which areas you're wanting to improve. I note that you have listed the Domobar Jnr as an upgrade over the Mara. From what I've seen and read this would be more of a sideways step when it comes to performance. The VBM probably only wins on build quality.
As above. You wouldn't gain a huge amount in capability, perhaps more refined/quiet operation with a rotary pump and brew temp adjustability with a dual boiler? Or aesthetics?
Maybe a grinder upgrade will give you more in terms of flavour upgrade?
Yep, what I was thinking, depending on what the OP is really looking for...
Originally Posted by artman
Thanks for the replies. Been away since my initial post so haven't been able to clarify.
I need to be careful with what I say as ideally I'll be selling the machine here.
I'm happy with the Mara but I primarily bought it due to size. Now I'm thinking maybe I should have spent some more money and considered machines that were a bit bigger. My choice initially was of 1. So now I'm thinking maybe I just bite the bullet and pay for a superior machine?? What does superior mean? Hard to quantify but I'd say something that
- is easy to service
- ideally would have a long life (my Silvia was a workhorse for many years). Very well made.
- good temperature control between shots and steaming
I think all but the Minore probably represent more of a cross-grade as only the Minore is a different architecture.
For looks, I think the Appartamento has it nailed and I'm just imagining custom powdercoat contrasting with the white or brass...
Perhaps it may be worth holding off to have a look at the Rocket prior to pulling the trigger on anything else?
Rocket does really good build and great finish. I am expecting an impressive machine.
Thanks Chris, I am thinking down those lines. Either get the Appartamento or wait and bite the bullet and spend above my budget. Either way I am thinking I need to upgrade my Lelit PL044MMT grinder to a Macap M4D