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Thread: Looking for something with more bells and whistles!

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    Looking for something with more bells and whistles!

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Hi Guys!

    Looking for some info, i started my coffee journey years ago with a Silvia, i installed a PID and even wrote a full guide for CS on how to do it. I loved tinkering with stuff, changing boiler temp for different flavour profiles and all that fun stuff, in the end I bought a Giotto Premium Plus for a price i couldn't refuse. It has been an amazing machine, producing some amazing coffee.
    Now 5 years down the track and 4 kids later im after some tinkering fun again.
    So my questions are;
    What is my machine worth these days to sell? (In great condition)
    What could I get for that price second hand that has more bells and whistles....if anything, it's ok if it's older within reason, something that I could play with temps and pressure etc

    Hoping someone can help me out!

    Thanks!

    Warren

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    Re price, have a look through the sold section here, will give you an idea of range of prices in the past as a good start.

    Re the tinkering, sounds like an older machine that you can tweak and improve on would be the way to go. but the steps up from a HX giotto would be dual boiler machine, and they usually already come with PID.

    Why dont you look into getting a variable pump for the giotto so you can play with pressure profiling?

    Cheers

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    Thanks artman, dual boiler was what i was thinking, im not looking for a machine to install a PID in, just loved using the PID so a machine that comes with one would be a massive plus!

    So are there any good coffee producing dual boilers with PID in my price range?

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    The Lelit PL60T is around $2K:

    Lelit Diana (PL60T V2) Dual Boiler
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    Thanks Charlie,

    But i'd be looking at second hand, if i bought new i would go backward i would imagine, your thoughts? and could i get 2k for my GPP?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WSullivan View Post
    ...in the end I bought a Giotto Premium Plus for a price i couldn't refuse.
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    could i get 2k for my GPP?
    Hi Warren,

    If you purchased it for a price you couldn't refuse, it may have been about $2k those five years ago?

    Circa $1200-$1400 (ish) is the going price for anything up to Plus V1 (aka Premium Plus) these days.

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    Year just over 2k from memory, any decent options in the $1200-$1400 range second hand? Looking for models not specific machines for sale

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    Keep a lookout in the for sale section here, great value machines pop up regularly.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by WSullivan View Post
    Year just over 2k from memory, any decent options in the $1200-$1400 range second hand? Looking for models not specific machines for sale
    I know a bloke who wants to sell a Giotto Premium Plus which might be in your price range...

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    I had a laugh, sounds good! might give him a call!
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    Quote Originally Posted by artman View Post
    Keep a lookout in the for sale section here, great value machines pop up regularly.

    Cheers
    What i was hoping for is some input into what machines would be a good option, i haven't been active on CS for years thanks to having a heap of kids I had a laugh

    Not too sure whats happening in the market at the moment...

    So does anyone have any suggestions of machines to look out for?

    cheers

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    Hi Warren, Expobar Minore would be a great step forwards. It's my bang for the buck winner - no secret there

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    Quote Originally Posted by WSullivan View Post
    What i was hoping for is some input into what machines would be a good option, i haven't been active on CS for years thanks to having a heap of kids I had a laugh

    Not too sure whats happening in the market at the moment...

    So does anyone have any suggestions of machines to look out for?

    cheers

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    I don't keep an eagle eye on the for sale section, but from memory I don't think you'll do any better than what you've already got for that price. There's been a few Rocket R58s sold here but they're all $3000+. For a decent European, 2nd hand, dual boiler with PID you're looking at $2K minimum I think. The only other option would be Breville. The BES920 would give you a chance to play with lots of variables and you should be able to get a 2nd hand one for <$1000. Might not be a long term option, but if you're after something a bit different for a while it could be worth considering.
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    Quote Originally Posted by K_Bean_Coffee View Post
    Hi Warren, Expobar Minore would be a great step forwards. It's my bang for the buck winner - no secret there
    Know of any for $1200-1400?

    Cheers

    Warren

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    If I had mid $1k to spend, this is a no brainer... http://coffeesnobs.com.au/coffee-har...a-cremina.html. Almost tempted to grab it myself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by magnafunk View Post
    I saw this!, looks interesting, however grunt maybe an issue, looks like it can take sometime to recover from a single shot.

    I see a lot of talk about different models in the US, 1500w/1600w and 15amp/20amp

    @sniff - do you know which model this is?

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    So i guess the question is, who is willing to swap a Giotto Premium Plus for a Dual boiler machine with a PID in good condition?

    Could i post this question in the FS/Wanted section?

    Thanks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by WSullivan View Post
    So i guess the question is, who is willing to swap a Giotto Premium Plus for a Dual boiler machine with a PID in good condition?

    Could i post this question in the FS/Wanted section?

    Thanks!
    Yep, put it in the sales section.
    My guess is you would need to offer the Giotto PP and some $ to get to a decent DB

    Best of luck



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