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    New machine “not a box”

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    Good news the CFO has approved my submission for a new espresso machine.

    She has however made said approval conditional on it being “not a box” and even more concerningly wants it to be “nice looking”.

    I fear I have stumbled into a devious ploy whereby conditional approval is granted but cannot be fulfilled.

    While stretching the $3k allocation the Orchestral Nota got a tentative nod of approval.

    What else is out there that might work both aesthetically as well as functionally?

    Any suggestions will be very well received.

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    The Rocket Appartamento might work for you. It is a box but with rather arty side panels andhas the advantage of being well within your budget as well as not taking up as much kitchen real estate as many other machines. Otherwise, for something non boxy, there's the Electra Micro casa

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    Haha, best ones are the “boxes”

    Non-box ones could include San Remo Treviso, Francino Cherub, Bezzera Domus Galatea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flynnaus View Post
    The Rocket Appartamento might work for you. It is a box but has rather arty side panels but has the advantage of being well within your budget as well as not taking up as much kitchen real estate as many other machines. Otherwise, for something non boxy, there's the Electra Micro casa
    Thanks Flynnaus, you may well be onto something there - she’s very keen lately on copper and brass.

    Cheers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcachon View Post
    Haha, best ones are the “boxes”

    Non-box ones could include San Remo Treviso, Francino Cherub, Bezzera Domus Galatea.
    Yes I looked at the Francino first but was scared off by the lack of reviews.

    The Bezzera needs further investigation.

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    Say you will allow her to get the Nota and you'll customise it for her birthday. If she blinks you run to the nearest retailer like your hair's on fire..

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    The Nota has dropped off a bit the last 12 months as a popular model in our range ..
    It is quite large and overly so in my opinion.

    Bezzera Galatea is a worth choice for a non box style as is the Elektra micro casa.

    We stock both so feel free to call or PM if we can help.

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    My vote goes to the Elektra as a box killer. As long as you are not making shot after shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMcCee View Post
    Say you will allow her to get the Nota and you'll customise it for her birthday. If she blinks you run to the nearest retailer like your hair's on fire..

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    That is the picture of beauty for sure.

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    Non box like
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    Not a box either
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    Wink

    Quote Originally Posted by Casa Espresso View Post

    Non box like
    Not a square edge to be seen
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    Quote Originally Posted by arcachon View Post
    Not a square edge to be seen
    I've had both the Leva and the Semi on the bench and both made me smile first thing in the morning. And that was before I even made a coffee. Even after all these years you can still do a lot worse than an Elektra Leva or Semi.
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    Hiya

    I have had a Bezzera Galatea for several years. One of the reasons why I choose it was that the edges of "the box" are so nicely rounded and the panels are fitted so well. It was form and function combined. The Electra in my opinion has a bit more form than the Galatea, the Electra is a real head turner for the kitchen, however the Galtea has a bit more capacity. By the later I mean that it will be able to churn out a dozen coffees in short time to cater if you have a few guests. The Electra is best suited to just a few persons. Even with many guests though you can always convince some to have tea :-)

    So you probably need to discuss whether this is just for yourselves or do you entertain a lot? Do you want a bit more form over function? And if you can call into a CS Sponsor and have a good look at them. They are both very nicely built and look great.

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    The galatea looks fantastic in the flesh (metal?), much better than in photos, even my wife liked it!

    Cheers
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    So it turns out that the Rocket Appartamento gets the wife’s vote.

    A box with brass circle highlights is “not a box”.

    I’m not one to argue with that logic and I think I am pretty happy with the outcome.

    Thanks for the helpful advice everyone.

    Cheers
    Peter.

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    Good choice. Now, about the grinder..
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanderP View Post
    So it turns out that the Rocket Appartamento gets the wife’s vote. A box with brass circle highlights is “not a box”.
    Told ya! Congrats.
    As JMcCee said, make sure you match it with a good quality grinder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SanderP View Post
    So it turns out that the Rocket Appartamento gets the wife’s vote.

    A box with brass circle highlights is “not a box”.

    I’m not one to argue with that logic and I think I am pretty happy with the outcome.

    Thanks for the helpful advice everyone.

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    Peter.
    Ironic as that machine is almost a perfect cube

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    Quote Originally Posted by arcachon View Post
    Ironic as that machine is almost a perfect cube
    Dont start that...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanderP View Post
    Good news the CFO has approved my submission for a new espresso machine.

    She has however made said approval conditional on it being “not a box” and even more concerningly wants it to be “nice looking”.

    I fear I have stumbled into a devious ploy whereby conditional approval is granted but cannot be fulfilled.

    While stretching the $3k allocation the Orchestral Nota got a tentative nod of approval.

    What else is out there that might work both aesthetically as well as functionally?

    Any suggestions will be very well received.

    Cheers
    Peter
    Any advice on the submission process you went through? Many of us have CFOs who don't quite see the value of high-end espresso gear as we do, and think we can just "make do" (oh my!). I'm hoping to get a nice new grinder soon and shall be planning my presentation!
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    The isomac mondiale is not the standard shiny box

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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhakins View Post
    Any advice on the submission process you went through? Many of us have CFOs who don't quite see the value of high-end espresso gear as we do, and think we can just "make do" (oh my!). I'm hoping to get a nice new grinder soon and shall be planning my presentation!
    That is easy to justify with facts. if you buy a coffee a day for say $5 thats $1500 a year. two years of not buying (usually inferior) coffee and youre streets ahead, and have something of value that you can resell...... to upgrade so you can continue saving money.

    The quicker you buy, the sooner and more you'll save!

    Cheers

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    Elektra designs are just amazing. Breath taking beauty in any kitchen. Anyway i dont have it just dreaming about haveing one. My friend parent have it so when i come to visit them they make me some really good espresso.
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    I like my box, but I've modified it (cosmetically) to suit my taste.

    It's an option for you to simply modify an exterior panel, colour change is only $100 - $200.

    https://i.ibb.co/Pmddh6q/DSC00545-1.jpg

    It maches the grinder now and I've constantly got compliments on the way the combination looks.

    https://youtu.be/jvTPl1RHd3M

    I personally can't stand Rocket's loud brand advertising and you can't remove it without leaving marks or holes in the stainless. But if you don't mind it, they do look good, even if they are basically cubes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnaBannana View Post
    Elektra designs are just amazing. Breath taking beauty in any kitchen. Anyway i dont have it just dreaming about haveing one. My friend parent have it so when i come to visit them they make me some really good espresso.
    They do look amazing, but I've never had a decent coffee from one so didn't get one. I assumed (perhaps incorrectly) they were all show and no go.

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    While not a new Machine I spotted this bad boy on Ebay might be worth buying and restoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BobSac View Post
    I like my box, but I've modified it (cosmetically) to suit my taste.

    It's an option for you to simply modify an exterior panel, colour change is only $100 - $200.

    https://i.ibb.co/Pmddh6q/DSC00545-1.jpg
    what did you use to get this finish? Did you do the front panel and drop tray?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mb21 View Post
    what did you use to get this finish? Did you do the front panel and drop tray?
    Powdercoat. Satin black.

    Both the Expobar and the grinder.
    The Expobar is cheap, quick and easy, just a few screws.
    The grinder cost a fortune to do, I didn't expect it to cost that much and wasn't too happy as the quotes I received to dismantle the grinder and for the powdercoat were both significantly more expensive than originally quoted

    Together the cosmetic modifications cost $550.



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