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Thread: ECM Bellezza

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    ECM Bellezza

    Does anybody own one of these machines? if so how do you find them?
    I am looking to upgrade to a rotary pump but don't want a large machine as space is limited.
    This machine looks alike a compromise between heat exchange boiler and rotary pump.
    I believe it can be plumbed in, which could be a bonus.
    No PID. Does it need one?
    All answers and comments welcome.
    Price seems fair also

    Current machine is Bezzera BZ 10.

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    Last edited by Rolf; 1 Week Ago at 06:36 PM.
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    Just the fact that this model has a rotary pump (quiet) and the ability to be able to plumb it in to the water supply (no more filling the tank up)
    Both good upgrades, possibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrfish View Post
    No PID. Does it need one?
    No, it's an HX machine.

    Whether a PID is an upgrade on an HX machine is debatable, it is certainly not a necessity.
    Last edited by Lyrebird; 1 Week Ago at 10:17 PM.
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    Agree with Lyrebird re the PID on a HX. It the seller set it up well it won’t need cooling flush and will be relative stable.

    personally I don’t like the body of the Belezza machine (old ECM barista body)

    the E61 group will take longer to heat up and stabilise then the Bezzera BZ10.

    i didn’t think that the vibe pump on the BZ10 was that loud, yes the rotary pump is nice if the reduced noise is of value and you’ll plump it, but if not save the $300-400 pump Coast and buy a better grinder.
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    Yep the Belezza is pretty much an ECM Barista with a rotary pump and steam/hot water toggle levers. It is in quite a big case that flares out on the sides, so not the smallest machine. The smallest rotary pump machine I can think of would be the Rocket Mozzafiato Evo R.
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    Hi OP
    Thereís a new narrow Lelit Bianca with rotary pump and PADDLE CONTROL!! that might work for ya! Iím waiting for this to get to Aus so I can see it in action.
    Grillsy
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    Thanks Papanick, i'll check this machine out.

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