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Thread: WTB ECM Classika PID

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    WTB ECM Classika PID

    Gene Cafe Coffee Roaster $850 - Free Beans Free Freight
    Gday folks,

    Think I've lasted 10years with my Rancilio combo so time to upgrade.
    Wondering if anyone had an ECM Classika PID for sale around the 1k mark or another machine of similiar ilk preferably an E61
    Have sourced a Mazzer Mini so that should compliment the upgrade nicely
    Send us a message if you have something you think I might be interested in

    Cheers,
    Tim.
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    10 years! I'm assuming the Silvy & Rocky duo? Sounds very much like my journey (except I only lasted 5 years with my pair) - I went to the Mazzer when I got sick of the rocky doser. Gave away the Silvy last year to a mate starting his coffee journey, looking forward to not tackling the refill-needy single boiler of the Silvy with my next machine.

    Good luck with the purchase search!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanx View Post
    Wondering if anyone had an ECM Classika PID for sale around the 1k mark or another machine of similiar ilk preferably an E61
    You would be highly unlikely to find one at that price. Finding a used one for sale is a tall order. In the last 18 months or so I've seen only one of the non-PID Classikas for sale at around $800-900 I think it was. Those that have bought the PID version appear to be hanging on to them which in itself is probably a good recommendation. If a used one came up for sale I'd imagine you'd be looking in the $1400-$1700 range for a good one depending on age and condition. At the higher price you'd be wanting to see service receipts.
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    +1 CafeLotta, IIRC it's still a relatively new model.
    Unless OP is well along on their espresso journey, have they considered a non-pid E61 SBDU (quite a few to chose from, one on evilbay about $800 this week) with an aftermarket group head thermometer? They are far closer to specified budget including thermometer
    FWIW, there's an Expobar Leva E61 plus a decent base level small grinder for sale on here right now for $1000 the lot
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    re:hawk87
    Yeah mate was the silvy & rocky combo
    what did you end up upgrading to?

    Was thinking 1k might be a little low as well CafeLotta so have adjusted original post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lanx View Post
    Gday folks,

    Think I've lasted 10years with my Rancilio combo so time to upgrade.
    Wondering if anyone had an ECM Classika PID for sale around the 1k mark or another machine of similiar ilk preferably an E61
    Have sourced a Mazzer Mini so that should compliment the upgrade nicely
    Send us a message if you have something you think I might be interested in

    Cheers,
    Tim.
    Change price up to $1500

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    Good luck Tim, you're much more likely to strike gold. The Expobar isn't mine, just trying to help

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    there have been a couple of lever machines FS here too I know it is not a PID etc but just a thought that it would make great coffee

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    Where are you located Tim?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kjarsheim View Post
    Unless OP is well along on their espresso journey, have they considered a non-pid E61 SBDU (quite a few to chose from, one on evilbay about $800 this week) with an aftermarket group head thermometer?
    It's quite a reasonable option. There's a bit to be said for keeping it simple. The non-PID single boiler machines have very little to go wrong with them unless you do something silly like leave the steam button depressed on a partially filled boiler for a prolonged time. Allowing scale to build up is the other big no no but that goes for any machine. Using filtered water and descaling as required should ensure you have a smooth run with them. Applying lube to the E61 moving parts is relatively simple with plenty of info online. If you can do this yourself, commercial servicing costs are negligible. Adding a grouphead thermometer unlocks more in these non-PID E61 SBDU machines in my opinion. A bit of a learning curve but worthwhile.

    Most of the SBDU (Single Boiler, Dual Use) E61s offered for sale are the earlier VBM Piccolo/Levetta with the larger illuminated red buttons and powder coated frames. The frames are prone to rusting under the drip tray and internally if there have been leaks like when scale has been allowed to build up. At the right price they're good value. Most seem to be advertised for $600-$800 but I'd suggest an inspection if possible. Pulling the back cover off (if allowed) would give you valuable information. Used buys are always a bit of a lottery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackster View Post
    Where are you located Tim?
    Adelaide mate but happy to pay for postage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wineslave View Post
    there have been a couple of lever machines FS here too I know it is not a PID etc but just a thought that it would make great coffee
    Yeah there seems to be so many options I just sort of went with a proven machine with a good rep and hoped one would be around

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    Quote Originally Posted by CafeLotta View Post
    It's quite a reasonable option. There's a bit to be said for keeping it simple. The non-PID single boiler machines have very little to go wrong with them unless you do something silly like leave the steam button depressed on a partially filled boiler for a prolonged time. Allowing scale to build up is the other big no no but that goes for any machine. Using filtered water and descaling as required should ensure you have a smooth run with them. Applying lube to the E61 moving parts is relatively simple with plenty of info online. If you can do this yourself, commercial servicing costs are negligible. Adding a grouphead thermometer unlocks more in these non-PID E61 SBDU machines in my opinion. A bit of a learning curve but worthwhile.

    Most of the SBDU (Single Boiler, Dual Use) E61s offered for sale are the earlier VBM Piccolo/Levetta with the larger illuminated red buttons and powder coated frames. The frames are prone to rusting under the drip tray and internally if there have been leaks like when scale has been allowed to build up. At the right price they're good value. Most seem to be advertised for $600-$800 but I'd suggest an inspection if possible. Pulling the back cover off (if allowed) would give you valuable information. Used buys are always a bit of a lottery.
    Yeah love getting into the workings of things...service the car myself if that's anything to go by

    Have noticed a few for sale around the place but almost always seem to be interstate primarily VIC and NSW. Things are just a little smaller and slower here in Adelaide



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