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    Cup of Excellence Guatemala 2007 Lot 2

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    Just tried the Guatemala 2007 Lot 2 from the CoE sampler pack.
    I have to say I am slightly disappointed with it. The Aroma was complex but reminded me of Roast Vegetables. The Cup was very clean, a citric acidity came through at a lower temperature, not very sweet, a chocolaty aftertaste. Not too much flavour came through.

    It was roasted to the first few snaps of SC, there was no bitterness in the cup so I am guessing I didnt over roast the bean. Could it be that the bean wasnt stored properly and the flavour has been lost either in storage or shipping?

    The Colombian Lot 3 was very nice on the other hand.

    Brew methods were French press and Syphon, the French Press gave me a bit more body and sweetness but not much difference flavour wise.

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    Re: Cup of Excellent Guatemala 2007 Lot 2

    I dont have any of this coffee BM but I wouldnt have roasted as deeply as you have done. I think it would be one of those beans to take quite gently to Rolling First Crack (RFC) and then stop it before any Second Crack (SC) snaps are heard at around CS8 roast colour. Leave it for a few days for the flavours to develop and then try it as a Syphon or Plunger brew. With the depth of roast you have, it might work better in an AeroPress or even an Espresso...

    All the best,
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    Re: Cup of Excellent Guatemala 2007 Lot 2

    Thanks for the comment Mal.

    The reason I roasted it to the first few snaps of SC is this is the first and only batch I have, hence I only have 1 shot at roasting it. So it was safer roasting it this way than if I would have stopped it shortly after FC, and since I dont have any roasting notes on this bean theres no way Ill know when to pull "just shy of SC".
    Anyway, Ill try a longer steep time to see if I can get more flavour out of it.

    But interestingly I roasted the Colombian Lot 3 exactly the same way and it was Excellent, normally you would think the Guatemala would be more flavourful than the Colombia, but not in this case... at least for me.

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    Re: Cup of Excellence Guatemala 2007 Lot 2

    There you go..... Cant make any assumptions about coffee. Re: the roast depth recommendation, thats why I included the colour as a guide but its moot now anyway.

    Happy brewing mate :)
    Mal.

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    Re: Cup of Excellence Guatemala 2007 Lot 2

    UPDATE on the Guatemala Lot 2.

    Today I brewed it using the Plunger and a proper 4MINS steep time, and it make a huge difference to the cup. It was Complex and Sweet, Aroma was a butterscotch sweetness, little bit savory notes which is kind of nice. :P :P
    It shows this coffee needs a proper extraction to get it right, and Syphon is probably under extracting it... but Ill try it again with a higher temperature.


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    Re: Cup of Excellence Guatemala 2007 Lot 2

    gday BM, I was wondering how long you rested the beans for before brewing? I am just about to try my first roast with this bean, and like you dont want to stuff anything up!

    Im going to roast half my batch (two popper loads). Its been murder waiting for a cool enough day to do this, so I can draw out my roast time as long as possible...

    btw... long time lurker, first time poster! this is my first CS post! woot!

    Cheers, Mike.

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    Re: Cup of Excellence Guatemala 2007 Lot 2

    Hey Mike, Generally for Espresso I rest at least 7 days. But for filter/Plunger/Syphon I think 4-5 days should be enough to maximize the aroma.
    Good luck with your roast, remember not to go too dark.

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    Re: Cup of Excellence Guatemala 2007 Lot 2

    I have tried a couple of Guats recently. The first Guat Organic (not available any more unfortunately) I roasted this just past second crack for a really full chocolatey flavour. But i found that I had to keep the heat up for longer than my usual roasts. The second one which sounds more like the Cup of Excellence style is sweeter due to acidity but not as full as the Organic.

    If roasting lighter you can and probably should let the coffee settle for at least 3 or 4 days depending on the storage environment. The change within the bean is ongoing and I have found that as the bean develops you can use it in different devices effectively.

    Having said that my experience has shown that everyone has their own tastes. Some perfer to drink straight from the roaster - so to speak. While others like to let the beans settle for 21 days.

    BTW "my experience" is as a coffee roaster, retailer.

    James

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    Re: Cup of Excellence Guatemala 2007 Lot 2

    Quote Originally Posted by 2E222B2B28283A243E284D0 link=1231076811/7#7 date=1232055362
    Having said that my experience has shown that everyone has their own tastes. Some perfer to drink straight from the roaster - so to speak. While others like to let the beans settle for 21 days.
    And some prefer Starbucks..................



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