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    Got this idea from Lucas lament in another thread that theres hardly any talk about the actual coffee in this joint (Im paraphrasing).

    Seeings as I am happily married to my Giotto, and feel no temptation to leave him (though I am flirting with the idea of dumping my SJ - I do like the idea of coming home to a K10 ;) ), I do sometimes log on and am a bit disappointed no ones posted much in here ;) Cmon, theres gotta be some sweet coffee being drunk around here!

    So, to get the ball rolling ... how bout we share our three(ish) highlight coffees of the year. Single Origin or Blend, roasted by yourself or someone else, through whichever brewing method you like, made by yourself or someone else, but whats got you excited so far this year?

    Hmm ... to limit myself to three ...

    Mountain Top Estate Bin 549
    Goodness gracious this was a beauty, and Im regretting not buying more :( Intoxicating, complex, fruitcake and spice. Loved it. I have one batch left stashed away for a rainy day. Wish I had more (hint, hint Andy), would love to play with this through syphon and filter. Easily my favourite this year.

    Nicaragua Ramacafe Fine Estate
    From last BeanBay. Yummy, sweet, orange, malt and nuts. Loved it as a lighter roasted espresso, and through the filter.

    Kenya Masai AA
    Love it as filter/syphon, especially as it cools. The citrusy, florally notes round out to juicy, fruity, passionfruit goodness (I get a little carried away describing this one).
    Love it as espresso, even if it is mouth-puckeringly bright at this lighter roast.

    Anyone else wanna play? :D

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    Great thread, Michelle! *Theres usually an annual "best of" thread on CG and I think that its time we had one here.

    You will need to add "L" in the url to get to any B L O G S P O T links.

    My "knock your socks off brewed coffee"


    Kenya Mamuto - Terroir Coffee - blog post.

    Siphon/Drip: Bright, sweet, smooth, ribena, coffee cherry, tomato.
    What can I say? *Its not often that I switch off the espresso machine for a week and bother scrubbing out the siphon constantly. *And it was three weeks old and half dead from the trip by the time that I got it. *Amazing!

    My "mega comfort food chocolate bar cappuccino coffee"

    Fair Trade Organic Blend - Supreme - blog post.

    Cappuccino: Cuts through milk with confidence; malty/vegemitey flavour and dry cocoa finish. Great.
    Kuda Mas - Brother Baba Budan - blog post

    Cappuccino: Effortlessly mastered even relatively large amounts of milk, leaving me wondering whether I hadnt inadvertently added several spoons of Milo. Sledgehammer subtlety.
    (BBBs was probably marginally better, to tell you the truth, but Supremes was great, too.)

    My "OMG thats awesome espresso coffee"

    This one is a tough one, with a few contenders. *Espresso shot of the year at a cafe is, for me, a shot of the Bolivian #3 CoE from Talor at BBB. *Buttery mouthfeel and incredibly long, perfectly balanced finish, from memory. *I have enjoyed a few espresso coffees at home, the standouts probably being Venez. Estate and 5 Senses PNG Elimbari.

    A quick footnote

    Sometimes people feel intimidated about posting about the coffee because they cant taste this or that fleeting and exotic flavour. *Please dont worry too much about it and have a go anyway. If you read this webpage and feel intimidated in posting, chances are that you actually have a much better palate than you think that you do.

    The goal is to give an accurate representation of what the thing tasted like and if you stretch yourself too far, you actually run the risk of undermining the usefulness of your description. *For example, I remember reading one published description of an espresso from a place that most would regard as one of the best in Melbourne. *The reviewer mentioned that it tasted of orchid oil. *I had drunk that particular blend many times and it also so happened that I had recently had a bunch of chocolate with orchid oil. *I couldnt, for the life of me, see how you could get orchid oil from that coffee and it made me question how much stock to place in the other descriptions in that publication that I read.

    If youre stuck for somewhere to start, its probably a good idea to describe the intensity of the body, the acidity and the length of the aftertaste, as these are qualities that all coffees have. *I have often omitted these fundamental descriptors and I will be endeavouring to change that from now on.

    Describing coffee is not a vocabulary contest. It is an exercise in communication.

    Keep on adding, guys! *Great thread!

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    Due to a temp probe error I nearly scorched a batch of MT bin 35. Rather than throw it out I decided to taste it anyway... to my surprise the additional heat hadnt destroyed all the flavour, but had moved it more towards the chocolately end of the spectrum. I enjoyed some very nice flat whites and managed an excellent espresso as well. The espresso from these MT beans is very thick and creamy with low acidity. Some rich dark fruit like jam and bitter-sweet cocolate.

    I experimented with a second recreated error roast and have nearly finished that one as well. However, the darker roast (hitting rolling SC) does mute the more fruity flavours, so my current roast is back to the first snaps of SC with about 30 coasting with the HG off before dumping and cooling.

    The interesting thing with the MT beans (bin 35 and 549) is that they are both nice to drink after as little as 1 days rest. So these are my emergency OMG I forgot to roast beans.

    Contrast the recent Sumatran Mandehling from the last bean bay. Im glad I got these and seem to have found a reasonable roast profile, going into rolling SC. I get a musty mossy woody flavour with some caramel/chocolate towards the end. Again, like the MT beans, a huge body creamy mouthfeel. These need a lot of rest and seem to be best at least 7 days post roast. Before that I got a grassy bovine urine flavour that I didnt appreciate. However, near the last few shots Ive been getting some wonderful caramel/chocolate/dusty flat whites.

    Recent PNG Wahgi AA. Yet another contrast. Requiring a very light roast pulled before second crack. These beans also require a decent rest before enjoying them at their best. When you get there its a mid acidity, mid body citrus flavours that ends with caramel. In milk the caramel stands out the most. Another most enjoyable, but very different coffee.

    From Pioneer Roastery, a Kenyan AA that was simply stunning in milk. Similar to the PNG above but far more intense, with richer flavours (I cant be too specific because I only had one). I didnt enjoy it as an espresso as it was far too acidic for my delicate tongue...

    Cheers,

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    Ive had a few surprise coffees lately, these are the coffees where you dont know what to expect and they come out of nowhere to make your memorable list.

    As Mark mentioned the Kenya Dorman AA from 07 crop. Expecting the regular acidic dry fruit flavours with a hint of chocolate and no body. Instead, clean , dark chocoalte full body with distinct peach acidity and pleasant cocoa aftertaste. Normally I would never attempt this as an espresso but it was great, although acidic. Needless to say 1 bag turned into 10 very quickly until I finally had to convince myself and my customers that enough was enough.

    We sell a lot of retail coffee, much of which is for filter. One of our more popular origins for filter is the MTC Boomerang. This year they ran out 6 months away from the next crop. Andrew was kind enough to send me a fair few Kilos of the Bin 478 (a higher grade of the same bean, normally all off to Japan and the U.S.). It took a few roasts to get used to the higher acidity but when I got it right I knew the 200 kilos I had in stock would never last to the 09 crop. Like the Boomerang it has a smooth clean nutty flavour, similar to a nice Colombian, but with a great subtle summer fruit acidity. Definitely a brewed coffee origin, but I could drink this all day, never over bearing on the pallet and never quiet able to nail a description. *


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparky link=1224031375/0#2 date=1224044847
    From Pioneer Roastery, a Kenyan AA that was simply stunning in milk. Similar to the PNG above but far more intense, with richer flavours (I cant be too specific because I only had one). I didnt enjoy it as an espresso as it was far too acidic for my delicate tongue..
    I seem to remember the 06 Kenya Masai Dorman AA basically being able to be roasted until it looked like it was nearly bursting out in flames and then delivering amazing cappuccino and, surprisingly, not being too acidic as an espresso.

    The Kenyan coffee industry is amazing; apparently they have a unique processing method. From what I have read, Kenyas auction system has been one of the coffee worlds great market successes - ie. the best coffees have commanded the best prices. I remember reading that this auction system was the inspiration for CoE.

    Cheers,

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    Most consistent tasty SO for me this year was the Bali Gunung Agung roasted to just shy of second crack. Seemed to work well most times.

    Peru Villa Rica Grace Estate has also been a superb bean - roasted 30 secs into second crack - generally very good all round.

    And one roast of Ethiopian Harrar which was pure chocolate in my piccolo latte phase - extraordinary - but most of my other roasts of this bean have been very average (suffice to say Im a very erratic roaster - its a comedy really).

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    All home roasted--

    Ethiopian Harrar Longberry--dark chocolate with spicy fruit overtones. Goes well as a ristretto or in piccolo lattes.

    Yemen Bani Ismail--cherries and chocolate--like a really great chocolate cake (maybe made with Ivory Coast cocoa!) and dried cherries.

    Colombian Volcan Galeras Supremo Bold--great body, sweet and caramel/chocolate with a bit of earthy.

    Greg

    (Stuffed up the Monsooned Malabar--way too dark, but it still tasted fair-to-good, so Im looking forward to trying it again--and being more careful!)

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    I had a cracker of a weekend last weekend and had some of the best coffees of the year.

    I thought it was time to add to this post as a result.

    Previously, my favourite bean through the syphon was:

    Kenya Gethumbwini - peach iced tea, guava, nuff said. Lightish roast

    I had a ridiculously good syphoned Ethiopean Sidamo (pulped natural) at MECCA Espresso the other day, berry-delishness, Ribina, tea-like all the way through.

    As an espresso my favourites were a Nicaraguan Natural processed as an espresso from BBB via 5 Senses (I think), made by HD on a 2gp Linea. I also had this brewed through a Clover (I think that was with you Luca) - again great. It truely excelled as an espresso though. I hope to get my hands on this again soon.

    Another doppio espresso I had last weekend at THE SOURCE was a Rwandan MIG Nyamagabe, blew me away. Its aftertaste of some citric sweetness, was foolish. Such a complexity Ive not noted in a bean for a while. I cupped this a while back through a plunger and it was amazing them - all I remember was a lemon sweetness.

    All coffees were clean as. I think this is one of the main attributes to quality coffee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1224031375/0#7 date=1228280624
    All coffees were clean as. I think this is one of the main attributes to quality coffee.
    My wife would agree with that comment.
    She has a better palate than mine.

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    Had previously done the Yemen Bani Ismail on the lighter side (pulled at the first snap of SC) and they were ok but not a standout. Decided to do my last batch deeper, pulled it few seconds in rolling second crack and rested it for 5 days and been thoroughly enjoying it the last week. Definitely went to the top of my favourite list and justifies its price tag! I paid special attention to slowing down the initial part of the roast going up to FC which meant it took a couple of minutes longer to get to FC.

    Another memorable one was the Ethiopian harar I roasted quite light and pulled just before it hit second crack. I expected more acidity because of the light roast but much to my surprise i got loads of chocolate....

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    Quote Originally Posted by YeeZa link=1224031375/0#7 date=1228280624
    I had a cracker of a weekend last weekend and had some of the best coffees of the year.

    I had a ridiculously good syphoned Ethiopian Sidamo (pulped natural) at MECCA Espresso the other day, berry-delishness, Ribena, tea-like all the way through.

    As an espresso my favourites were a Nicaraguan Natural processed as an espresso from BBB via 5 Senses (I think), made by HD on a 2gp Linea.

    Another doppio espresso I had last weekend at THE SOURCE was a Rwandan MIG Nyamagabe, blew me away. Its aftertaste of some citric sweetness, was foolish. Such a complexity Ive not noted in a bean for a while. I cupped this a while back through a plunger and it was amazing them - all I remember was a lemon sweetness.
    Same, same, same, same. :P

    The Sidamo was without doubt the best cup Ive ever had through a syphon. Blew my mind. Juicy, berrylicious, amazing! :-*


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    Best coffee I have had all year was at the Pioneer Roaster dont know what it was but it was good.

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    My best coffee I have brewed this year would have to be.
    PNG Wahgi AA, I roasted it just as I heard the 1st snaps of second crack, It was quite sweet and a lot of syrupy crema.
    I was very glad I got plenty of this bean.

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    3 favourites this year roasted at home from beanbay.

    1. Zimbabwe Pezuru Estate AA - only got a very small amount of this, but really enjoyed every bit.
    2. Sulawesi Rante Kapua Torajah - a recent one that I am drinking right now.
    3. PNG Wahgi AA - not one I was expecting to like very much, so I only got asmall bit, but really impressed me.


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    My top coupla beans this year (only started roasting in May...):

    1. Ethiopia Harrar (MAO Blue Horse) - still unbeatable for interest (choc+berry), though I couldnt drink it all the time.
    2. Rwanda Bourbon - really hard to roast well (1 magical roast out of 4 so far...) but when we nailed it there was an incredibly spicy, minty, dark choc complexity.
    3. Uganda Bugisu - got this in my starter pack and somehow nailed it with out first corretto roast! Amazing clean fruity and sweet choc.
    4. Ethiopian Yirgacheffe - try this at CS10-11 (with apologies to purists everywhere). Seriously, its incredible (dark Limu works well too) - that elusive dusty cocoa mouthfeel with a buttery, oily finish.
    5. Peru Grace Villa Estate - weve been amazed by GVE (as well as India Tiger Mountain) and can see why theyre CS favourites. More please, Andy (vote here!)

    Cheers
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    First ever Syphon was with Yeeza and Michelle a week ago while visiting from NZ. Well described guys and a stroke of good timing on my part. Tea, yes definately.
    Coffee enjoyed most at home this year....
    1) Bin 35
    2) PNG Wahgi AA
    3) Mexican Veracruz

    Cheers !

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    Best ive had this year would easily be the Nicaraguan at BBB through the clover, first time clovering and wish I could get there for a cupping session (I dont know much about picking up individual flavours though and have great respect for those that have such knowledgeable palates)

    Also thoroughly enjoyed the sample pack of CS beans I got with my order of Silvia and Rocky from Chris over at Talk Coffee, cant remember the bean though, just know it was an SO... :(

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    I feel like such a twat saying this...but my first ever roast being a Ugandan Bugisui AA still sits in my tastebuds. I still think about it all the time :-/

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    Quote Originally Posted by smitten link=1224031375/0#17 date=1228733426
    I feel like such a twat saying this...but my first ever roast being a Ugandan Bugisui AA still sits in my tastebuds. I still think about it all the time :-/

    No way smitten, thats gold that you can say that! Nothing wrong with that at all, its one of those, "Thats what its all about." moments.

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    I recently took both Yirg and Ethiopian Limmu a little darker than I normally do and I was amazed at the development of taste. The Yirg I had roasted to about CS 8 previously and was not my favourite. I gave it a long roast this time with FC at about 16 minutes and pulled it at 19 minutes, at CS 9/10 it developed all the flavours I had read about, and I am now a convert to Yirg.

    I normally take Limmu to CS 9 but this time I took to CS 10, I was roasting without my normal assistant, and WOW - Dark Chocolate Supreme. with a hint of sherbet it comes on with big flavours which cut through the milk easily and with an acid hit which is very pleasant. The taste lingers long after the cup is drained. This is one coffee that is definitely on my MUST BUY List. :) :)

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    hey Smitten I envy you remembering your first roast in such a great way, my first popper roast had a distinct charcoal taste but I soon sorted that out!!
    Happy roasting........................gm

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    Quote Originally Posted by greenman link=1224031375/20#20 date=1228858555
    my first popper roast had a distinct charcoal taste
    Yet your username is still greenman.

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    Charcoal on the outside - green on the inside -

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    I label my roasts "greenz beanz" and they are brown inside and out these days!!!

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    I probably had one of my best cups to date yesterday with the Panama La Esmeralda. It was the most pleasant cup Ive ever had. Perfumed tea aroma, one of the most pleasant dry fragrances Ive even had the pleasure of smelling, the cup was very complete. Beautiful calming acidity, soothing citrusy goodness on the back/sides of my tongue. My tongue is filled with a rainbow of flavours and colours impossible to pin down to a single taste.
    Coffee was brewed trad cupping style, left to steep for 4 minutes before filtering through paper.
    A coffee brilliant from first pouring at hot, all the way to room temp.

    I havent had a better coffee than this for a long time.

    If delightful was a coffee, thisd be it.

    If anyone has had this through an espresso machine, id love to know what its like. Im not game enough to use the last few grams of mine to chance. ;)

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    Yes....in 2007...had the Esmerelda geisha through the LM FB80 @ First Pour. Distinct mandarin juice taste. This coffee is not designed for espresso.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wushoes - David S link=1224031375/20#25 date=1231035168
    This coffee is not designed for espresso.
    Thanks DS. I cant bring myself to use it as a spro. :)

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    Ok so on the weekend I had some seriously FANTASTIC coffees.

    Kenya French Mission. - pour over.

    Ethiopian Sidamo Dale.

    Find them, have them.

    East African coffees are SOOO HOT right now.

    Re-reading this thread is making me want some more Esmeralda though. Cha-ching. 8-)

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    Ralph de Castro Junqueira. Mega heavy body when cupped; rounded honey and rasin finish. Amazing stuff.

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    Interesting Luca..... :)

    From the name I guess it has its origins in Brazil but do you know where from exactly mate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0924202C214D0 link=1224031375/29#29 date=1234187718
    Interesting Luca..... :)

    From the name I guess it has its origins in Brazil but do you know where from exactly mate?

    Mal.
    Off the top of my head, youd have to ask Ralph. ;P

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    Quote Originally Posted by 4D544240210 link=1224031375/30#30 date=1234265638
    Off the top of my head, youd have to ask Ralph. *;P
    ::)

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    Looks like youre right, Mal - Brazil it is...

    I found this on the COE website:
    http://tinyurl.com/bujou2

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    I had a laugh....

    Whod a thought that this is actually the name of the farmer himself ;).... It sounded like a Portuguese sort of name or the name of a place in Portugal and when I did a Google Earth search, sure enough, theres a place in Portugal with this name. Since Brazils national language is also Portuguese, I thought it(the coffee) might originate there. Should have just tried a simple Google search and all would have been revealed.... ;D

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    Quote Originally Posted by 677B7B647F1E0 link=1224031375/27#27 date=1234174591
    Ok so on the weekend I had some seriously FANTASTIC coffees.

    Kenya French Mission. - pour over.

    Ethiopian Sidamo Dale.

    Find them, have them.

    East African coffees are SOOO HOT right now.

    Re-reading this thread is making me want some more Esmeralda though. Cha-ching. *8-)
    SO SO HOT!

    Dans right, these coffees were amazing. Though Cachoeira was pretty interesting too - peanut laden.

    This year so far has been full of ridiculously awesome coffee. Es, Nic-Nat, Dale, French Mish ... just wish I had something to post about that Dan hasnt beat me to :P

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    At home I drink plunger coffee and usually bring home whats not selling as quickly. Things have also been really hectic so I havent really had time to sit down and do some proper tastings, anyway.

    I grabbed a pack of Ethiopian Harrar Grade 4 FTO out of the shop the other day and really marvelled at the experience in the nose and the cup.

    As a roasted bean this coffee is really distinct. The flavour an almost overpowering marzipan.

    Truly recommended!

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    3 awards from my place:

    Most versatile: PNG Waghi, enough said great SO and brings any blend to life!

    Surprise packet: Kenya Rititi AA, beautiful as SO in milk

    Reliable: Columbian Excelso, consistent with strong chocolate notes

    ;D



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