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    Well, I roasted this in the same way I roast all new beans - about 10.5mins to FC then a slowish ramp up which hits the first random snap of second crack in 4 mins and I pull it right there.

    A colleague and I enjoyed (what an understatement!) an espresso in the tea room this morning.

    Lovely viscous pour, stunning aroma. Smooth as silk on the palate with amazing fruit on the front palate anchored with a dark chocolate background (KJM has been reading wine tasting [s]wank[/s] literature!).

    I agree 100% with Andy. If I was to be marooned on a desert island this is the bean Id take. (Of course, with the necessary gen set to run the espresso machine etc etc)..

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    Re: Yemeni - Mocha Ismaili

    My first bag of this one hits day five tomorrow.
    Its taken all of my strength to hold off this long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6A6A6A200 link=1312271962/1#1 date=1312273404
    Its taken all of my strength to hold off this long.
    I can help!!!!! Ill pay the freight! Happily remove the temptation from your reach. No problems. Small, unmarked non-consecutive bills OK?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 0504034E0 link=1312271962/0#0 date=1312271962
    with the necessary gen set to run the espresso machine etc
    I would be happy just chewing on the roasted beans once the gen set ran out of fuel.
    :)

    This Ismaili is nearly "double coffee", the bold flavours and body are all doubled for the same given amount of beans.

    Enjoy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 644B415C250 link=1312271962/3#3 date=1312290757
    I would be happy just chewing on the roasted beans once the gen set ran out of fuel.


    This Ismaili is nearly "double coffee", the bold flavours and body are all doubled for the same given amount of beans.
    I couldnt agree more. Today (one day later!) the taste is even better! I hope the remaining supplies are well secured in the Snobbery - as the one bag I have gets lower, my thoughts might turn to crime :-?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 6061662B0 link=1312271962/4#4 date=1312359431
    I hope the remaining supplies are well secured in the Snobbery
    I missed out!
    :-[

    I roasted 5kg preBeanBay and that went to the comp in Europe with me and sadly I actually missed out on getting any more.

    I do have a stash of the other 4 Yemens though.
    8-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 654A405D240 link=1312271962/5#5 date=1312381241
    and sadly I actually missed out on getting any more.
    I really feel for you - this is seriously the best Yemen coffee Ive had! Cripes!

    /Kevin

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    Re: Yemeni - Mocha Ismaili

    I am enjoying my first 1st Popper roast of this from 5 days ago.
    1st crack was at about 4 mins
    2nd crack started at about 9 mins
    Pulled a little after rolling 2nd crack.
    Roasting went a bit too fast - possibly due to being a 150g batch.
    I would say roasted to CS10.5
    Would appreciated recommendations on roasting this bean.

    Gotta say Delicious! Very smooth.
    And I obviously need to read some wine tasting lit.

    Maybe this is sacrilege, as it is beautiful by itself, but what would blend well with this?
    I am a latte drinker

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    Quote Originally Posted by 7250575754585F504554557544525A310 link=1312271962/7#7 date=1312606377
    Gotta say Delicious! Very smooth.
    Welcome to the popper club. The proof of the popping is in the drinking.

    I donít have any Yeman. If what you are doing is giving you great results, stick to it and drink it the way that gives you the greatest pleasure. Perhaps try a lighter roast and see how you like it.

    Now that you have fresh coffee you wonít want to drink stale coffee again.

    Barry

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    Mr Duck - Id suggest you aim for 3 to 4 mins between first and second and you pull it just before second.

    Every roaster is different, so giving any sensible advice is a bit hard, but basically these guys seem to be pretty much the same as all the Yemenis Ive done. Hard beans that take a fair bit of heat to get going.

    I ran out of Malawi beans for an espresso the other day and topped it off with these. Probably something like 20% Yemen. Fabulous - worked brilliantly - so much so that this is now the preferred tipple for daughter#2 who has the Malawi roasted for her.

    If you want to try this with milk, Id probably suggest a similar (20%) quantity in something you already roast for milk. Youll lose the delightful mouthfeel of course and possibly some of the fruit, but I suspect it will be lovely. I might risk trying that on Mrs KJM tomorrow ;)

    /Kevin

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    Re: Yemeni - Mocha Ismaili

    Try a blend of 35% just cleared rolling 1st crack and 65% just starting into rolling 2nd crack as an espresso about 3 days post roast. Had some of the 2010 batch of this coffee, simply stunning in the black.

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    Re: Yemeni - Mocha Ismaili

    Hi aficionados did anyone else with the Yemeni mocha Ismaili detect any rodent notes in the coffee? I have so far found 4 large rat nuggets in the SO ! I am thinking this is an Arabic version of Kopi Luwak . I havent roasted any yet . I am going to have to be careful not to roast any of the small dark peaberrys . Perhaps I may try a sub batch of Yemeni Cafe rodentica , not sure what it will cup like but expecting it might taste like sh&@? :( :( 8-)

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    Ewwww yuck!
    Im surprised though, rodents dont eat coffee and all the bags were sealed grainpro so it must have happened during the milling I guess.

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    The nuggets were really dry and black. I guess it has been a contaminant from the source? Anyways high temperature will kill any Salmonella in the roasting as long as I can forget about it when Im drinking it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 66507D6E43565647220 link=1312271962/11#11 date=1312767686
    I have so far found 4 large rat nuggets in the SO ! I am thinking this is an Arabic version of Kopi Luwak .
    Geez. Now youve got me worried! But I do check the greens before I roast - to me Yemen means rocks! Not organic-at-origin rocks though! :-?

    /Kevin

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    "But I do check the greens before I roast "

    Are you sure? Im sure this explains that slightly musty note in the one you made this
    morning ...

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    For sure they were in there I found them as soon as I opened the bag. Not my rats, they poo green from rat sac which may be more difficult to detect :-/
    Dr Ratus ratus

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    Re: Yemeni - Mocha Ismaili

    Love this bean.

    Roasting taken to start of 2nd crack, rather disappointed with the flavour in the first week, hay type characteristics, rather bland. In the 2nd week, it just got better and better. Lovely & lush.

    Took some on hols, mixed 50/50 with the Peru Ceja de Selva Estate, in a stove top Bialetti, and several folk said it was the best coffee they had ever drunk. Even after I spilled all the beans on the floor, they were all happy to use those tainted beans for a second round of coffees.

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    Re: Yemeni - Mocha Ismaili

    I must be in the minority with this one, and have not enjoyed it much at all... Im finding it hard to roast, and have pulled early on both occasions. Will try for a darker roast next time. Loving my other Yemen though- Al Haj boan :)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5D58545058575A55584B52390 link=1312271962/18#18 date=1320324554
    I must be in the minority with this one, and have not enjoyed it much at all... Im finding it hard to roast, and have pulled early on both occasions. Will try for a darker roast next time. Loving my other Yemen though- Al Haj boan*
    I have to admit to not experimenting too much with any of the Yemenis - I basically roast them all the same. The Al Haj Boan is a lot larger bean though - maybe for the more normal Yemenis you need to go a bit further? For me: they get blasted full tilt in the Gene to first crack, then 4 minutes and pull. If I left them another 20 seconds or so, theyd start SC - so my profile is clearly "just on the verge of second crack".

    I think this one is my all-time favourite bean. Having said that, there is a definite slightly musty back note to it (which I dont actually find unpleasant).

    /Kevin

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    Thanks... Will try that next time. I think my lighting wasnt the best during the last roast. I have a habit of slowing the gene down quite a bit at first crack ( to like 220-225) cos Ive been getting cratering on the softer beans. It may be a bit slow with the harder Africans...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5E5B57535B5459565B48513A0 link=1312271962/20#20 date=1320580339
    I have a habit of slowing the gene down quite a bit at first crack ( to like 220-225) cos Ive been getting cratering on the softer beans. It may be a bit slow with the harder Africans...
    Hmmm - never had a cratering issue with the Gene. To me, if anything, it seems a bit too gentle!

    I suspect each Gene is slightly different!

    /Kevin



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