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    Jamaica Blue Mountain

    Hi Andy,
    I am sure a saw a previous thread that mentioned something about why you only offer JBM unroasted but I can't seem to locate it now. So at the risk of being rebuffed swiftly, may I ask whether you would consider supplying the JBM roasted for those of us that haven't ventured down the path of roasting for ourselves? Thanks, Paul


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    Paul,
    I'll have a ping at it.
    I think it comes down to demand.
    It's an expensive bean and the roaster that Andy uses has a minimum load.
    Say the minimum load is 5kg (I'm not totally sure, but I think it would be at least that), he'd need pre-orders of more than 4kg to make it worth doing.
    Since it is an expensive bean, he is unlikely to get that many orders unless it all came from one person.

    Brett.

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    Thanks Brett, that's understandable. I'll keep wondering what it's like - i remember my mum and gran always talking about JBM being fab, even though they never actually tried it for themselves!

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    JBM is excellent coffee. Balanced flavours, sweet, mild. 'Balanced' means no one flavour characteristic is going to stand out.
    It should be on any CSer's bucket list. I've bought a couple of 1kg lots in the past so can tick this one off my list, and I didn't regret the purchase.

    Fatman is on the money. I think Andy did offer roasted JBM once with a minimum quantity of a kg but it may have been for a similarly priced premium variety.

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    Thanks fellas, you a both correct.
    We did offer it as a roasted bean once before with a minimum 2kg purchase and still needed a few orders at a time to do the (nervous) roast.

    Typically anyone offering real 100% JBM will roast a batch and sell it over months, we only do fresh roasted so it doesn't really fit.

    If you want to buy 3.2kg of roasted JBM (which is 4kg of green beans) it will set you back about $440 ($137/kg). Contact me off-line if you do (but I won't hold my breath).

    Your best option would be to buy a kilo green and trade half with a local home roaster for roasting it for you.

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    Hi Andy, thanks so much for considering it. I am attempting to get a couple of other people to club together for 1kg each, my sister is already almost on-board. I'm keen but it's a big ask for others, so like you i am not holding my breath. I will PM you if I can pull it off. Thankyou

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    Paul,
    If you do get it organised, don't send Andy a PM (I think he has disabled the function for himself )
    Use the 'Contact us' link near the bottom right of the page instead.

    Brett.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poloallen View Post
    Hi Andy, thanks so much for considering it. I am attempting to get a couple of other people to club together for 1kg each, my sister is already almost on-board. I'm keen but it's a big ask for others, so like you i am not holding my breath. I will PM you if I can pull it off. Thankyou
    Paul, if you get close I would be up for 500 grams. Don't throw anyone out or reduce their allocation if their keen, but I would be happy to try JBM for 500grams worth plus postage if you need some to make the numbers up. I also haven't flown first class since they put beds in and very unlikely to, so won't be losing sleep if it doesn't happen.

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    I’d be up for 500g of roasted JBM, could maybe stretch to a kilo if I get some interest from friends. I do roast beans but I’d rather try these ones done by Andy.

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    Hi 338 and Ryjoda, thanks both for offering. I was only able to to get two of us on board. I can take 2kg of roasted if you both can split the rest between you? If you are both ok to proceed how could we coordinate it? Would Andy be willing to despatch to 3 separate addresses and take 3 payments? Cheers.

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    I’d gladly buy half of the remaining 1.2kg, that or 700g if someone else wants a neat 500g... and of course if Andy is willing to proceed with all of this... I would probably just order more greens from BeanBay and get the JBM posted with that, otherwise we will sort something else.

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    Paul and Ryjoda, happy to take 500 or 600 grams, whichever is easiest. Maybe 600 each, Ryjoda? Like Ryjoda, would be happy to buy green and get it posted with that, if it saves hassle for all. Also happy to pay Andy direct or you Paul if he would prefer you to coordinate. At least it is only 3 parties, pretty straightforward to organise. Paul as you are taking the lions share, maybe you approach Andy and see how he wants to proceed. I am guessing we are all existing clients so straightforward if it gets shipped and billed from his end, otherwise I can paypal you the funds when we have confirmed split so you aren't out of pocket.

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    Thanks guys. Andy - your call on how to proceed. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poloallen View Post
    Thanks guys. Andy - your call on how to proceed. Cheers.
    How to proceed? As above, contact me off-line (which you have done).
    Can't expect me to always see banter in a thread but I do reply to nearly all emails within a couple of hours (even Sat/Sunday night it appears!).

    Okay, so added to the baskets is:

    2kg - poloallen
    600g - 338
    600g - Ryjoda

    That's the 3.2kg or roasted needed to proceed so I've put the item in BeanBay for 24 hours:
    CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Roasted Coffee - fresh roasted to order - Jamaica Blue Mountain

    Anyone can jump on and grab it in 100g multiples for $13.50 per 100g until this time tomorrow (to allow payments to clear).

    Coffee will roast and ship Wednesday 1st AUGUST.

    Enjoy!

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    Thanks Andy. I have made direct bank transfer for my portion.

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    Your bank will let it through their tight grip on Tuesday and the coffee will roast Wednesday.

    Enjoy!

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    Iím in look forward to trying it

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    Just paid for this Andy. Big thanks, I never would have trusted myself to do justice to a bean of this calibre so never would have tried it (except what I have had in cafes, which seems may not be 100% JBM). Thank you.

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    Cheers Andy. Good excuse to order more greens also, some great value beans to temper the insanity.

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    thanks guys for organising this - i'm in and payed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 338 View Post
    (except what I have had in cafes, which seems may not be 100% JBM)
    You see "Blue Mountain" coffee all through Asia, sold for $1 a cup (or less) so yeah, you have to assume it was one bean tossed into a roaster full of another random origin.

    You can also find it in Australia from time to time at around $220-$250/kg so either that's "real" or a huge con and rarely do you get to select a roast date and I guarantee they have a best before of 2 years time on it.

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    Andy, any chance you could suggest a window to drink this coffee? Just trying to get a handle on it's optimum? Must say I think this is a great opportunity to try the real thing at it's optimum, thanks for it.

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    No specific suggestions except a rule of thumb for all coffees:

    plunger is okay 1 day old
    brew is okay 1 day old but allow a longer bloom time for the gases to escape.
    3-4 days minimum wait for espresso.
    7-14 days, stable with no huge changes.
    ...then it will start to taper off slowly.
    Still drinkable 18 months later but try and use it well before that!

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    It wont last 18 months at my place! I will be fairly keen before that

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    I hate the thought of seeing a shot of this choke or gush, any suggestions for a bean that could be similar in trying to maximise my chances of nailing an espresso dial in immediately? Probably not Harrar or wild Africans.. maybe PNG or Peru?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ryjoda View Post
    any suggestions for a bean that could be similar
    The closest you would get from what is in BeanBay is probably the PNG Wahgi. I can understand your hesitancy but don't sweat it too much. Just go about preparing it like any other coffee, it doesn't require any special grinder setting or brewing method.
    I do recommend leaving the milk in the fridge and enjoying the JBM as an espresso or long black. Also great made with a syphon or Aeropress.

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    hopped on. just so people can stop telling me to try jamaica f***ing blue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ryjoda View Post
    I hate the thought of seeing a shot of this choke or gush, any suggestions for a bean that could be similar in trying to maximise my chances of nailing an espresso dial in immediately?
    nope. you gotta suck it and see. the good news is that high-quality coffees are generally more forgiving.

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    actually come to think of it...andy, you going lighter or darker on this one?

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    @flynnaus - Thanks, I like me some PNG Wahgi so I’ll have that in grinder before the JBM. My wife drinks espresso with milk so she usually gets the first shot. I will definitely try it in the aeropress but good espresso shots are my ultimate goal. I will probably wait a patient 5 days before I try it as espresso and would like to have tastes of it remaining out til days 14-20 and slightly beyond maybe...

    I actually don’t even have crazy high expectations, I’ll be striving to do it justice though and prepare it in the best way possible, hopefully I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodhouse View Post
    hopped on. just so people can stop telling me to try jamaica f***ing blue.
    That's why I jumped in as well, it's not everyday we get to play with such a great coffee!

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    I could resist trying some either. Perfect demonstration of the FOMO phenomenon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodhouse View Post
    actually come to think of it...andy, you going lighter or darker on this one?
    In the middle Goldilocks.

    A lot of JBM I've tried in the past was less than optimum because the roaster was scared to roast it. It's a common theme for expensive beans. My JBM roasts target CS8-9 where the sours are gone and the sugars peak.

    We'll see how I go by the end of the week when you lot start to get it.

    ...no pressure right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Andy View Post
    In the middle Goldilocks.

    A lot of JBM I've tried in the past was less than optimum because the roaster was scared to roast it. It's a common theme for expensive beans. My JBM roasts target CS8-9 where the sours are gone and the sugars peak.

    We'll see how I go by the end of the week when you lot start to get it.

    ...no pressure right?
    None at all

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    Bugger, I missed this, maybe next time.

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    No pressure Andy, it’s just your entire credibility and reputation hanging by one roast.

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    Don't make Andy nervous, he might change his mind leave us to roast for ourselves

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    Gees the JBM didn't last long-2 weeks. For those who missed out, there's still Hawaiian Kona in Beanbay which is quite similar to the Jamaican Blue Mountain.

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    A friend asked me to roast 1kg of JBM for him a few years ago, he had a larger roaster and hadn't done any smaller batch roasts so he though it wise not to experiment with expensive beans.
    I split it into two 500g batches and roasted them as I would a PNG bean and the results were good. I did two slightly different profiles one for espresso and the other a bit lighter for filter/aeropress or espresso.
    I was a little edgy roasting someone else's expensive beans but all parties were pleased with the result!!!
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    *** moved the thread from BeanBay banter as it will disappear when the next BeanBay happens ***




    Well, it's done!


    Roast was painless and here's a couple of quick pics of it in the cooling tray and packed in bags on the bench.
    (Don't get too excited if your 200g of beans says 500g on the top of the bag... the sticker will have the real weight)

    jbm1.jpg jbm2.jpg


    Shipping it out as we speak so everyone should get it soon.


    Enjoy!

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    Well done, and thankyou Andy, can't wait to enjoy it! And thanks to 338 and Ryjoda for clubbing together with me to get the ball rolling on this. Coffees all round to celebrate!!!!
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    I was going to say thank to you Poloallen and Andy, without your initial post and lions share of this the ball wouldn't have started rolling. Now to see what all the fuss is about ......
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    Thanks Andy. Everyone’s a winner.

    Vive la BeanBay!
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    Thanks all for organising this - I was lucky enough to score the last 200g and am looking forward to trying it.
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    If there is another run on this bean at all Andy to be sold in smaller packs again I'm IN for a couple . Just putting it out there .Cheers . Those that got your hands on some enjoy !!!

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    I received my lot today!

    Thanks Andy for roasting and the usual very quick delivery.

    Thanks to the others who started this whole idea off.
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    I'm watching this thread with interest! awaiting the forthcoming reviews.

    Hope all who bought some of the JBM are delighted with what they get in the cup.

    Bet there are a few nervous Nellies out there, agonizing over the brew method, grind etc, good luck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yelta View Post

    Bet there are a few nervous Nellies out there, agonising over the brew method, grind etc, good luck.
    I'm up for the challenge!
    Most will probably be in the V60 with one or two espressos.

    I've faced larger challenges in my life before!
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    Damn courier left my 2kg of JBM on doorstep without signature as no one was home. Hope they are still there when I get home and they had the sense to leave them somewhere in the shade

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    Quote Originally Posted by topshot View Post
    I'm up for the challenge!
    I've faced lager challenges in my life before!
    I've faced the odd lager challenge as well. Pilsener, too.


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    Phew, panic over. They were in a nice spot in a shaded position. Can't wait to try!

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