shower screen removal

[kooky]

Hi all Im new to CS and could not find where to post this so I hope this as a new topic is ok . Im sure its been discussed somewhere on here before but I cant find it.
Anyhow,
After digging out and old dusty Milano evd2 espresso machine I had in the garage I have discovered that I cant seem to get the shower screens off. ( this machine came from a cafe I bought and wasnt maintained)
there is no screw just a ...what looks like a rivet holding the shower screen on .. this machine really needs a good overhall and I need to get started asap .. can someone help in explaining what I should do.
I dont have a manual for it.
cheers

[stuartgrant]

Re: shower screen removal

I have no experience with this machine - or any commercial machines - but if the showerscreen arrangement is anything like the VBM DS my housemate has, the whole thing is held in place by the rubber gasket. Once you get that out - which can be a huge effort, especially if its old and perished - the shower screen will essentially come out too.

Youll more than likely need a new gasket because getting the old one out will damage it. the easiest way to remove it is to screw a screw into the rubber and pull on that. My housemates gasket came out in pieces, and that would only have been a year old or so.

Hope that helps.
Stuart.

[Dennis]

Re: shower screen removal

what looks like a rivet holding the shower screen on

That sounds like a typical replacement screen that is held in place by the rubber group seal. Usually it can be levered down with a flat screwdriver, working your way around the group and using the group for purchase. However if the seal has hardened, you may need to chisel this out first - it will come away in pieces.

Cheers!

[A_M]

Re: shower screen removal

Hi all Im new to  CS and could not find where to post this so I hope this as a new topic is ok . Im sure its been discussed somewhere on here before but I cant find it.
Anyhow,
After digging out and old dusty Milano evd2 espresso machine I had in the garage I have discovered that I cant seem to get the shower screens off. ( this machine came from a cafe I bought and wasnt maintained)
there is no screw just a ...what looks like a rivet holding the shower screen on .. this machine really needs a good overhall and I need to get started asap  .. can someone help in explaining what I should do.
I dont have a manual for it.
cheers

Where are you located ?

KK told me years ago... Get a couple of long wood screws ... Any type but with a nice sharp point and a good thread..

Screw them into the seal on opposite sides and then you can use any sort of tool to grasp the screw head and pull down.. With two you can do it slower and work on one side and then the other..

Read more on it and other ways here..

http://home.surewest.net/frcn/Coffee/HowToGasket.html

[kooky]

Re: shower screen removal

thanks Dennis
I had a go at this but it seems like the screen dosnt want to move and the edge of the screen bent.. it feels like the rivet really need to come out first .. the screens will not rotate freely either, this might be because it is stuck to the seal.. oh man I dont know if I should just rip it out and reck the screen..
help

[A_M]

Re: shower screen removal

thanks Dennis
I had a go at this but it  seems like the screen dosnt want to move and the edge of the screen bent.. it feels like the rivet really need to come out first .. the screens will not rotate freely either, this might be because it is stuck to the seal.. oh man I dont know if I should just rip it out and reck the screen..
help

A rivet is telling you something... It is not ment to be moved / removed by teh opperator...

Remove the seal first.

In addition to the link and my advice above...

The E61 units do not have a screw and sometimes a rivet..

Thus here is a great how to as to removing teh shower screen.. Not it OLD... Remove the seal first.

http://home.surewest.net/frcn/Coffee/HowToE61gasket.html

[kooky]

Re: shower screen removal

cool, the pic of the e61 is the same as the one I have .
thanks

[kooky]

Re: shower screen removal

well that was what I needed .
thanks for your help I managed to get them out .
the seals are still quite flexable which is amazing
now to get onto the rest of the machine
thanks again

[A_M]

Re: shower screen removal

well that was what I needed .
thanks for your help I managed to get them out .
the seals are still quite flexable which is amazing
now to get onto the rest of the machine
thanks again

We are here to help if we can... In many cases.. It has all been said and done before.. Ya just got to know where to look.

Now where did a put my coffee.... Has any one seen my coffee... Bugger.. Google does not work on my place.. ;D

[Koffee_Kosmo]

Re: shower screen removal

Yep thats the way I remove the shower screen as in AMs link

However I have never once put a dint on it
I use the handle of a tea spoon or a chopstick

Also note that the seal has on one (top) side a taper on the outside edge
And the other (under) side has a sharp edge

When replacing the tapered edge goes up and in first

Easiest way to replace after removal is
Join/fit together the screen & seal (tapered edge facing up)
Place both in the group handle filter section
Lock the group handle into place (as if you are locking it in when making coffee)

Easy as drinking an espresso   ;D

KK
 

[kooky]

Re: shower screen removal

thanks Kosmo good tip on the seal and its tapered edge
that would have been something to over look

cheers

[Yelta]

Re: shower screen removal

Yep thats the way I remove the shower screen as in AMs link

However I have never once put a dint on it
I use the handle of a tea spoon or a chopstick

Also note that the seal has on one (top) side a taper on the outside edge
And the other (under) side has a sharp edge

When replacing the tapered edge goes up and in first

Easiest way to replace after removal is
Join/fit together the screen & seal (tapered edge facing up)
Place both in the group handle filter section
Lock the group handle into place (as if you are locking it in when making coffee)

Easy as drinking an espresso   ;D

KK
 

Good tips KK, had the orientation of the seal figured but had not considered your method of replacing the screen/seal, will certainly give it a go.

[Yelta]

Re: shower screen removal

thanks Dennis
I had a go at this but it  seems like the screen dosnt want to move and the edge of the screen bent.. it feels like the rivet really need to come out first .. the screens will not rotate freely either, this might be because it is stuck to the seal.. oh man I dont know if I should just rip it out and reck the screen..
help

A rivet is telling you something...  It is not ment to be moved / removed by teh opperator...

Remove the seal first.

In addition to the link and my advice above...

The E61 units do not have a screw and sometimes a rivet..

Thus here is a great how to as to removing teh shower screen..  Not it OLD... Remove the seal first.

http://home.surewest.net/frcn/Coffee/HowToE61gasket.html

Good link AM, your a fountain of knowledge.