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  • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

    could something like suspended cameras be utilized?
    there could be one vertically above the judges table, one directly above the machine, and one above the table.

    again i suppose it comes down to money

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    • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

      Originally posted by 1A121E1F363C3D530 link=1262094027/105#105 date=1265672982
      could something like suspended cameras be utilized?
      there could be one vertically above the judges table, one directly above the machine, and one above the table.

      again i suppose it comes down to money
      I dont want to see every ones bald spots or or their sholders ;D

      As those doing the work will tell you... When you have an active subject ya need to be in there and mobile...


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      • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

        While the camera guys were certainly right up there, I found most of the time I could still see what the barista was doing. When I couldnt it was when they were right in front and in those cases they were normally filming / shooting something like pouring the latte art which youd have to see on the screen anyway as youre too far away and at the wrong elevation to see directly.

        An alternative would be to have numerous cameras on scaffolds at various elevations and offsets behind the audience with long zooms but youd have to have plenty of them and someone smart switching the right cameras to the big screen because at that distance you cant just make a small movement to the left to avoid a hand in front of the cup or something to get a clear shot. But as has already been said, the cost factor here would be significant.

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        • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

          Originally posted by 19111D1C353F3E500 link=1262094027/105#105 date=1265672982
          could something like suspended cameras be utilized?
          there could be one vertically above the judges table, one directly above the machine, and one above the table.

          again i suppose it comes down to money
          yep, it certainly can and youd probably only need one per station. If I had to design a camera system for this sort of event Id be looking to rely on remote pan-tilt-zoom cameras and one roving camera for the whole stage. Still not cheap though!

          Originally posted by 0438253E343522373F34500 link=1262094027/104#104 date=1265668855
          IF a major television station could be convinced to broadcast the championships, they would bear a large proportion of the costs.
          actually, no I dont think they would. sadly, the TV world has changed since Mr Packer came up with World Series Cricket. Generally speaking, even with major sporting events, the networks want to buy a finished product that they can sell advertising against. They have no interest in creating the product to begin with.

          Look, dont get me wrong, Id be really happy to see this kind of thing on major network TV. But really the only way its going to happen at this stage is for a finished program to be delivered to someone like Aurora on Foxtel and have them play it out.

          I should also ad that higher production values for TV actually means more gear on stage and potentially less clear sight lines for the audience in attendance. I really think the key to making this more enjoyable to the public in attendance is to work with the actual staging of the event and find ways to create more open presentation areas that encourage cammos and photgs to be between the competitors station and the back of stage, leaving the front clear for audience view.

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          • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

            Originally posted by 58514A5358555D300 link=1262094027/108#108 date=1265690752
            I really think the key to making this more enjoyable to the public in attendance is to work with the actual staging of the event and find ways to create more open presentation areas that encourage cammos and photgs to be between the competitors station and the back of stage, leaving the front clear for audience view.  
            Hello...my point exactly.

            Originally posted by 43535F5F44516F57515C300 link=1262094027/101#101 date=1265634576
            If AASCA is going to continue to have this event appeal to the general public along with the faithful fans, they are going to have to sort out how they record it.
            And...

            Originally posted by 43535F5F44516F57515C300 link=1262094027/101#101 date=1265634576
            AASCA will need to think this through as this event becomes a bigger part of our competitive culture.  
            I was using the big sporting events as an example of how the organisers manage to give everyone a clear view with not too many obstacles. (I also know from experience that some venues just suck when it comes to spectating!) I was not suggesting that AASCA had as big a budget as the Commonwealth games however...sorry if it did seem like it.

            But as has been mentioned, I am sure that some staging options could be addressed if AASCA are interested in putting on a world class event.

            Anyway...in other news...

            Today, I had it on very good authority that Scott was initially invited to go and be on the Sunrise program this morning. However, the interview was canned because of the major sponsor, in this case, McDonalds, having a hissy fit over another coffee company being mentioned on their turf.

            Shame on you McDonalds...may your name be sullied forever for this...instead of encouraging our potential next world champion and certainly our current Australian champion, you are only interested in self and dollars...believe me when I say I will forever boycott your stores and bad mouth your name any chance I get... >


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            • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

              Originally posted by 6474787863764870767B170 link=1262094027/109#109 date=1265692706
              believe me when I say I will forever boycott your stores and bad mouth your name any chance I get...
              Havent stepped on McDonalds soil for about 16 years now...except once when a group of us motorcycling pulled into one and I had to break my vows to stay with the group.

              Refuse to spend my money on this company.

              Good to see someone else who remembers how the people have the power in capitalism if only we actually do choose where we spend our money.

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              • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

                Originally posted by 584844445F4A744C4A472B0 link=1262094027/109#109 date=1265692706
                Today, I had it on very good authority that Scott was initially invited to go and be on the Sunrise program this morning. However, the interview was canned because of the major sponsor, in this case, McDonalds, having a hissy fit over another coffee company being mentioned on their turf.

                Shame on you McDonalds...may your name be sullied forever for this...instead of encouraging our potential next world champion and certainly our current Australian champion, you are only interested in self and dollars...believe me when I say I will forever boycott your stores and bad mouth your name any chance I get...
                Disgraceful....

                Its not as if their floor sweepings have done anything for specialty coffee...RFA branded or not :

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                • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

                  Why couldnt venues be identified where demountable stadium seating can be accommodated? We used to use this for any number of special occasions and presentations, etc... The entire audience can then appreciate all of the proceedings, interactions and what have you. Works in teaching hospitals where students can closely observe medical procedures under way, university lecture halls.....

                  This type of seating is relatively cheap to hire, erect and demount when the event has completed. Plus, it allows for the audience to be much closer to the action without the problem of trying to view around others, etc.... Might be worth considering

                  Mal.

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                  • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

                    Originally posted by 14393D313C500 link=1262094027/112#112 date=1265701060
                    Why couldnt venues be identified where demountable stadium seating can be accommodated? We used to use this for any number of special occasions and presentations, etc...
                    Exactly what was set up outside Edinburgh Castle when we there back in 2006.
                    It was erected for the Military Tattoo that was due a few days after wed left.
                    If its good enough for them...

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                    • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

                      First lot of photos up guys.

                      http://www.flickr.com/photos/35152804@N00/sets/72157623253512009/

                      More to be added up sequentially.

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                      • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

                        Originally posted by 1428352E242532272F24400 link=1262094027/113#113 date=1265712459
                        Originally posted by 14393D313C500 link=1262094027/112#112 date=1265701060
                        Why couldnt venues be identified where demountable stadium seating can be accommodated? We used to use this for any number of special occasions and presentations, etc...  
                        Exactly what was set up outside Edinburgh Castle when we there back in 2006.
                        It was erected for the Military Tattoo that was due a few days after wed left.
                        If its good enough for them...
                        The venue where the comp was held has no shortage of flexible stadium seating, just not in the part where the food show was held.

                        Originally posted by 23333F500 link=1262094027/114#114 date=1265721173
                        First lot of photos up guys.
                        awesome! thanks for the link SCO

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                        • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

                          Looks like someone took Bens idea of sketching the judge to the next level...

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                          • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

                            Originally posted by 724E5348424354414942260 link=1262094027/116#116 date=1265776201
                            Looks like someone took Bens idea of sketching the judge to the next level...
                            Wow, just wow.

                            Even if you set aside the incredible latte art the coffee itself looks amazing.

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                            • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

                              Thanks SCO, the photos are awesome. Maybe next year I will make it there myself.

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                              • Re: 2010 AASCA National Championships - Jan 29-31

                                Hey,

                                If you couldnt make it to the GC, I made a little vid of my trip:
                                http://vimeo.com/9317759

                                and another one from my co-worker:
                                http://vimeo.com/9458230

                                Cheers!

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