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    Can anyone recommend a good general coffee for an office environment? Basically, the office has astaff of approx 300 people. What isa good tasting basic coffee?
    Ange/Moda

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    Does anyone have an opinion on the Expobar Ruggero?

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      Re: Coffee & Machine Needed....

      Originally posted by 5A757C7E56747F7A1B0 link=1163710607/1162#1162 date=1287378503
      Can anyone recommend a good general coffee for an office environment? Basically, the office has astaff of approx 300 people. What isa good tasting basic coffee?
      Ange/Moda
      Originally posted by 5A757C7E56747F7A1B0 link=1163710607/1163#1163 date=1287378598
      Does anyone have an opinion on the Expobar Ruggero?

      Best person to ask is ScooterGirl as she uses one in a cafe

      KK

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        [movedhere] General Coffee Related... [move by] Mal.

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          Re: Coffee & Machine Needed....

          Originally posted by 58777E7C54767D78190 link=1287378504/1#1 date=1287378598
          Does anyone have an opinion on the Expobar Ruggero?
          From my understanding it is the same as the megacrem in fancy packaging and I am very happy with my two. But in an office environment you would have to worry about who is using (misusing) it and keeping it clean and tidy might be an issue. Generally offices go with a superauto so the kitchen is kept clean.

          Brett

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            Good general purpose coffee with good appeal Genovese Super Brazil (at least give it a go).

            Machine wise unless you have a good percentage of the staff attend a training session (or run one in house) Fully Auto machines make the most sense. Personally as a training exercise 10-15% of the staff trained up will over time teach the rest that are interested in making a good coffee while the rest (heathens) will go back to the jar of Instunt.

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              With 300 staff, even at 66% coffee drinkers rate (and allowing for some who need 2 a day), thats in the 200 cups per day ballpark and its a high-end coffee requirement.

              Most of the bean2cup systems on the market at sub-$10K are rated at the upper limits of 100+ cups per day, except for the units that are approaching commercial grade 200+ cups per day at $15 - 20K.

              Even if you selected a bean2cup unit that was rated at the required cups per day, Ive seen so many of these units fail when run at their stated (or below) volumes. Basically, you can spend almost the same amount per year as the cost of a new machine in repairs and servicing. Ive seen some customers with new "swiss made" machines crash and burn in 6 weeks on less than rated volumes.

              The other challenging factor to consider when selecting a bean2cup is estimating the actual volume of cups - mostly this is under-cooked as its incredible how popular free espresso coffee can be in an office.

              Bean2cup systems also need daily milk sanitizing and this specific area is usually the #1 root cause of failure.

              Commercial espresso machines and grinders in most cases do not go well in an office environment, unless the people using them know what they are doing as BF stated - and its the time and mess that can put people off. White business shirts and coffee stains do not mix so well, either does the person rushing for a meeting and leaving mess in the sink (but that happens on all systems).

              Whilst I resisted ESE Pods for a very long time, Ive been to hell and back with numerous bean2cup systems over the last 4 years and reached the belief that the simplicity and reliability of PODs is one solution that can work reliably in offices.

              People have varying opinions about PODs - cost, freshness and flavour. Some ESE POD suppliers use seriously high-end coffee in the POD.

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                Re: Coffee & Machine Needed....

                Originally posted by 517E77755D7F7471100 link=1287378504/0#0 date=1287378503
                Can anyone recommend a good general coffee for an office environment? Basically, the office has astaff of approx 300 people. What isa good tasting basic coffee?
                Ange/Moda
                Nescafe 43 or Mocona if you want to splash out.

                Thats what they supply at Optus where Ive worked and they have over 3000 on site.

                All you need is a jar of each and a boiling water supply (Zip etc).

                I had an interview at Fujitsu a while back and saw that they use Nescafe.

                Workers love free coffee; instant will do for most of them.
                We also had a Sunbeam 6910 on the bench and very few people could be bothered bringing their own coffee.
                A few did try putting the Nescafe through it until I caught them but thats another story.  :

                Why do you want an espresso machine?
                Need or showing off?

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                  Are you planning on employing a barista full time? A commercial coffee machine is not something you can just let everyone use to make themselves a coffee easily and you might need to have a dedicated barista to run the machine, ensuring that it is looked after properly, including its maintenance and cleaning.

                  Other than the suggestion of just supplying instant (good one TG! ;D) do you not get a regular visit from a mobile coffee cart?

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