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Suggest a great place to start is to visit nearby professional experienced coffee roasters. Line up an appointment, soak up the atmosphere, check out the gear, watch the coffee being made for you while you sample it. You can take advice on what constitutes good coffee right from the source, where you would think the coffee should be good as in not just a good blend or SO, but well made.
Remember that you can supply gold plated beans to some, and it will still be turned into brown muck, so I think its important to visit the source and see what should be happening (and therefore what can be made to happen under your management), rather than risk getting the wrong impression through sampling inexpertly made coffees in various cafes.
Shoot the breeze, talk about your plans for the new venture, get some ideas, see if you think this is a supplier that you would like to work with...or not.
If you are worried about confidentially forget about it.....what coffee roaster supplier in his right mind is going to tell others about some great potential new business he is hoping to supply....not on your nelly.
And remember the exchange of info is a two way street, there is no point expecting a potential supplier to give you a free consultation, without you being straight with the reciprocating information.
Just my 3 dollar bills worth.
We would be happy to see you at CosmoreX Coffee but please do call and make an appointment so the right people are in attendance and have made time to see you and show you around. It will be an invaluable experience and completes a picture....quite different to simply taking delivery of coffee packets at your back door without having a mental picture of the organisation behind that.
Rgdz,
Attilio.
PS my assistant Michael has been trying to reach you without success....hope we didnt get the contact info wrong.
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Seek out bad coffee ? Not something I would do myself.Originally posted by 7B4D5A494A435E412C0 link=1326265629/19#19 date=1326946567I am intending to become a regular coffee drinker and wonder what the best way to go about it is. For instance should I Drink the same brand from the same shop for a couple of weeks. Should I source bad coffee making premises from the start until I get somewhat accustomed to the drink. I think I will take this approach.
Get to know your neighbours and competition. Definitely something I would do. It can be beneficial in so many ways even if just to make yourself known in the area.
Have you read the "Good Coffee Where ?" boards ?
Youre south of Sydney correct? Is this near you ?
http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1221129745
Edit: Id seek out bad coffee making premises so I know who to avoid.
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I am intending to become a regular coffee drinker and wonder what the best way to go about it is. For instance should I Drink the same brand from the same shop for a couple of weeks. Should I source bad coffee making premises from the start until I get somewhat accustomed to the drink. I think I will take this approach.
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Im going to throw my two cents in because Ive worked for coffee shops, run various hospitality businesses, and drank coffee since (possibly) I was born - even though Ive moved out of the industry now.Originally posted by 6B5D4A595A534E513C0 link=1326265629/0#0 date=1326265629At the risk of offending people I must say that i do not drink coffee myself. Just never tried it. I hope you are still able to give some advice.
If youre really brave enough, why not start drinking it to really experience it from a customer perspective?
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Im going to come at this from a different direction.
I suggest you learn to like coffee, or at least appreciate/be able to evaluate it. Many who have said they dont like coffee have been more than happy to drink my coffee--they then find they dont like bad coffee but good coffee is another whole thing.
Find a couple of places that reliably make great coffee in your area (see the Good Coffee Where section here) and see whether you actually do like coffee. It will make the whole coffee production much more enjoyable and enable you to judge how you are doing.
Greg
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Good to hear that you have seen them. Btw I love your ever changing signature. As you dont have a little c for copyright I may have too modify it slightly and incorporate it into mine
I like the idea of the swifts and have been doing some research on them. The Lms are a bit more pricey than some other brands. I have been reading up on temp and pressure profiling just not sure if they are useful or which models have them. I have been listening to some podcasts on coffee which has been good.
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Ive seen them in use with machines other than LMs. Exactly what mods/parts may need to be done/changed Ive no idea. I would imagine the collar and maybe the tamper plate.Originally posted by 1F293E2D2E273A25480 link=1326265629/14#14 date=1326613730Does anyone know if the Swift can only be used with LM machines due to the group heads. Or is there any other reason that the Swift Grinders are not compatible with other machines.
Java "Grinding on demand" phile
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Does anyone know if the Swift can only be used with LM machines due to the group heads. Or is there any other reason that the Swift Grinders are not compatible with other machines. cheers
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Yes but.....
For less than the asking, you should be able to buy three new (as in with a guarantee and local support that you wont need because the items will be new) very good quality grinders that will, do:
a) your main blend
b) your "special" and
c) your decaff.
This is because, the volume of coffee put through each will be different. The main grinder will be a volume model, the "special" may be the same or less (volume...not quality), and the decaff grinder will be smaller again.
This is business and therefore:
a) the purchases will be tax deductible in some way or other and GST claimable so the real cost to the business will be less than the total asking or paid figure (ie the deductions will come off some tax return or other) and
b) owing to the above there is no point buying second hand gear where the deductibility will be less and the equipment in used condition and there wont be (may not be) any local support.
A professional roaster supplier will be able to help with this kind of "bread and butter" information and decisions.
Rgdz,
Attilio
very first CS site sponsor
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Thanks for that Javaphile. Im a big fan of the US. hope you guys keep that Bill of Rights and Constitution strong. Cheers
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If you want a 2 bin grinder you might consider something like this: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1319804584
Java "Grinding up a storm" phile
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Hello W,
lucky I am a humble if very passionate coffee roaster and equipment importer, rather than a sales person
Experienced coffee roasters / suppliers will be able to give you very good advice, tempered by their extensive trade experience, when listening to what you would like to do in your unique situation
They will be able to explain what did and didnt work for others in similar situations in the past, and help you to make the right decisions for you, which in the end are also the right decisions for them if you are to partner together.
You need only choose the right one or the one that "fits" for you. Too often people who are new to the business and seem to have some kind of aversion to talking to professional suppliers, seem to take a lot of advice from people that dont.......have professional experience. I think its important to get the balance right!
Rgdz,
A.
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We had the machine serviced yet wasnt done properly and the grinder is in need of some attention. We are getting the machine serviced again to rectify the issue and looking into a new grinder. The folks arent too happy with the machine and they have more experience than me. Im learning all that i can about machines and grinders so that I can have some positive input. I have found some useful threads on here and youtube vids. I would like to have a grinder with two hoppers so that I can have some free-trade coffee as well. The folks had decided against FT coffee but maybe with a grinder with two hoppers I can sneak it in and give the customers a choice. I dont know if this would complicate the coffee making procedures further. I imaging it may mean that we have two different coffee vendors...and would have to calibrate the coffee machine and maybe the grinder(dont know if this is possible) differently for each vendors beans, dunno...if so does this mean that a more expensive programmable machine is needed. I imagine so. Its always hard trying to find out the sweetspot of price vs flexiblity, reliability so on and so forth. And no disrespect to sales people out there but sometimes we need to sift through some of the sales pitches to discover what makes a difference in the real world(or more accurately in our unique situation).Originally posted by 777F77707A7C1E0 link=1326265629/7#7 date=1326332873I found that my likes and dislikes about machines changed as I used them more - so why not get your current machine serviced and start using that? Then you might have a better idea of what you like after a few months.
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It so happens the far south coast of NSW is in our "back yard" so if you want to talk just give us your details (off forum) and we will give you a call.
As some have said there are people using very expensive equipment but run their businesses so as to turn out mediocre coffee, and others that use regular brand name (regular price) equipment and turn out very good coffee.
The choice is yours and the difference is in the attitude of the owners, their managers and staff. If good coffee is not a priority, I am afraid it doesnt matter how much money you spend or what perception any one gets of particular equipment brand names from reading internet forums .
Also note some of the ideas or perceptions gained in these mostly non trade forums of what you should or shouldnt do in your business, dont always match with the reality of what to do in a trade situation.
Not wishing to carry on too much but you might be interested to know that our business coach believes the following are the 5 most important components of being successful:
1) Identity
2) Belief
3) Capability
4) Behaviour
5) Environment.
Make of them what you will
We can help if you wish and have a wealth of experience from the trade side of things, we import our own excellent equipment, and of course roast our own award winning coffee.
Regards,
Attilio
very first CS site sponsor.
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You have a serious budget and most (not all) of the questions here are from people with lesser amounts of money looking for home equipment, so its definitely worth going and seeing a sponsor that has experience in this level of machine, and can let you use some before buying.
I found that my likes and dislikes about machines changed as I used them more - so why not get your current machine serviced and start using that? Then you might have a better idea of what you like after a few months.Originally posted by 506671626168756A070 link=1326265629/4#4 date=1326274838The equipement is still at the store so is ours to trade-in or sell.
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