Flat white in NYC.

[Yelta]

"In 2010, The New York Times praised the flat white as a "cult drink" but said its popularity was "not likely to (spread) in New York any time soon". Two years later, a handful of new Australian-owned cafes are finding an eager audience, with latte and cappuccino drinkers quickly converting to the flat white. True to the sleepless city spirit, you can now get a flattie 24 hours a day."
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/life/food-wine/bright-lights-flat-whites/story-e6frg8jo-1226358007068
As an afterthought, tell me why male baristas have a need/desire to wear silly little hats. :

[VimFuego]

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Funny you mention the hats. My recent observation to my wife is either a hat (usually a beret) or finger to neck tattoos is a pre-requisite to become a barrister these days. Not saying theres anything wrong with it, just what Ive noticed.
Having travelled to NYC last year, I can say there is some wonderful coffee shops to be found there (excluding of course the obligatory Starbucks on every corner)

[jbrewster]

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I think a finger to neck tattoo on a Barrister would likely be frowned upon, the legal profession being as conservative as it is  :P

For Baristas however, I couldnt care less so long as they produce good coffee ;D

[trentski]

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cant remember the last time I saw a barista with a hat :-?

[lilmeh]

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The one thing that irked me about living in NYC was that I didnt understand how they could make coffees without real milk.

Maybe you can make "coffees" with half and half but its still not real milk. :P

[Javaphile]

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Maybe you can make "coffees" with half and half but its still not real milk.

In the US Half & Half is typically only used in brewed coffee. Ive never seen any cafe that uses it for espresso based drinks. For that it would be one of the regular milks. ie Whole, 2%, 1% or Skim.


Java "Got Milk?" phile

[bennett]

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I have heaps of relatives in the US and whenever they mentioned half and half I always assumed it was 2%milk or our equivalent of lite white. Ive just googled it after reading Javas post. Its actually half cream half milk!! The things you learn from coffeesnobs. ;D

[lilmeh]

Re: Flat white in NYC.

Maybe you can make "coffees" with half and half but its still not real milk.

In the US Half & Half is typically only used in brewed coffee. Ive never seen any cafe that uses it for espresso based drinks. For that it would be one of the regular milks. ie Whole, 2%, 1% or Skim.

I was only on ManHateEm for a month (and nowhere else) and I am quite sure every cafe there served half and half only.

[Javaphile]

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I was only on ManHateEm for a month (and nowhere else) and I am quite sure every cafe there served half and half only.

Is that based on seeing a pitcher/thermos on the service counter alongside the napkins, sugar, and stirring sticks labeled half & half? That is there for those who want cream in their coffee. Just because there was half & half out on the counter doesnt mean that was what was used in the espresso based drinks. Some cafes are now including various milks and milk alternatives on the counter as well.

Did you perhaps order a latte with full cream? In the US cream for your coffee is understood to mean half & half. If you ordered a latte/cappuccino/flat white/macchiato with full cream you would be served a drink made with half & half, not whole milk.


Java "Thats a lotta fat!" phile

[lilmeh]

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Did you perhaps order a latte with full cream? In the US cream for your coffee is understood to mean half & half. If you ordered a latte/cappuccino/flat white/macchiato with full cream you would be served a drink made with half & half, not whole milk.

Hmm I didnt really specify but I remember once when I was asked "thats half and half?" and I asked if theres anything else and they pretty much said no. Maybe it was just my luck.

[Rocky]

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So let me see if I have got this right. There is a suggestion that in NYC the milk they use for milk-based coffees is actually half milk and half cream.
How does that steam? Like normal milk? Anyone tried this?

[Yelta]

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So let me see if I have got this right.  There is a suggestion that in NYC the milk they use for milk-based coffees is actually half milk and half cream.
How does that steam? Like normal milk? Anyone tried this?

Morning Rocky, yep sure have, Im a cream lover so shortly after buying Silvia many moons ago thought I would try adding some cream to the milk before steaming, never again, it turned into a horrible curdled mess. :P :