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  • #31
    Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

    Originally posted by 764354560500310 link=1141787120/29#29 date=1242641565
    I agree with you there moto that you need to verify with the customer as to how they like their coffee especially one like a mach. as there are a few variances as displayed in this post.
    In the few weeks I worked as a barista I knew enough to ask how they wanted their machs.

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    • #32
      Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

      i do not see a problem with a universal coffee menu.... i think there is a big difference between burgers and coffee... (no disrespect intended)

      if we are going to use italian words such as latte pronounced lut - tear then we should know the meaning.....you are simply just asking for a cup of milk....

      flat white is a great one....... and of course has been argued lots.... what the F#&k is a flat white...... no wonder the italians think we are mad sometimes.....

      lets face it...we make better milk coffee than the italians... the least we can do is order them and call them by their proper names.....

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      • #33
        Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

        True burgers and coffee are very different I was just using it as an example of how food can differ from one location to another but still be called the same thing. This thread shows the problem with such an idea for macchiatos there are several ideas about how it should be served and which one is the right one. I believe that flat white, latte etc are generally standardised, so the universal menu works, but I think that cafes need to have a little blurb for macchiatos to explain how it is done "normally here" and if the customer wants to vary it then they can.

        I have a little flyer in the van so that if people want to know the difference between the coffees they can read it for themselves, that said most people read and then go for their standard latte/cappa etc.

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        • #34
          Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

          You could go Zarrafas style and have an explicit description for each coffee (just dont copy their production method...)

          I dont really have anything to input here, as Ive never ordered one before -- I dont know how to pronounce it!
          mah-ke-ah-toe; ma-ki-toe; the m-word...

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          • #35
            Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

            ;D LOL Reminds me of discussions of other types of coffee orders. But yes, "stained" espresso is the go, whether hot or cold.

            Id agree with his comment that hes fussy: he obviously prefers his flavour experience to include intense espresso finished with a milky diffusion. Id agree that it would change the flavour of his coffee experience - the hot/microfoamed milk is poured on top and distributes through the espresso differently to the cold milk sliding down the side and using physics (?) to drop to the bottom.

            Sounds like he needs to join CoffeeSnobs so that he can a) learn to make his own perfectly from scratch and b) learn of all the different variations there are in the world and c) join a group as passionate as he, is in their own way!

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            • #36
              Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

              lol, i remember arguing with a friend when we were in melbourne

              he ordered a long mach and they put in water and he was ranting about how long mach means a double. I said long meant with water and he should try again with double short mach. SO tehn i went into a different cafe and ordered that and the barista looked at me and said , "you mean a long mach ?"

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              • #37
                Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

                I had always ignored the macchiato on the menu until last year when a friend ordered one and was handed a double shot flat white. Loving a nice strong coffee I jumped onto this and have been ordering from every coffee shop I go to in Perth. All give the same drink - some ask if I want "traditional" or "long", but most dont - just get a double shot flat white. I have since done a bit of research and all the info I can find suggests that a macchiato is an espresso stained with milk (some say hot, some say cold). Except in Perth that is - where it appears to be a double shot flat white :P

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                • #38
                  Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

                  ^^^ That really is bizarre stevo! I mean, finding that once is like a strange fluke, but all over?

                  Smarten up, Perth!

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                  • #39
                    Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

                    Yeah- weird the Perth mac  

                    Reminds me of the game of Chinese whispers...

                    <<<<<<<<Perth is a few thousand km thataway  :P ;D

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                    • #40
                      Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

                      Ive never been given a dbl shot flat white as a short mac.
                      Ill often get asked how I would like it...but never as a flat white.

                      Yes were a few ks away...We have power and telephone now!!
                      And colour tv! ;D

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                      • #41
                        Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

                        Originally posted by 777275736F7C7B1D0 link=1141787120/39#39 date=1243635829
                        Ive never been given a dbl shot flat white as a short mac.
                        Ill often get asked how I would like it...but never as a flat white.

                        Yes were a few ks away...We have power and telephone now!!
                        And colour tv! ;D
                        I drink double shot flat whites over here in the east.

                        Now that you have all the mod cons please ring a few cafes and organise a TV ad campaign to put them straight.

                        Weird!!!!!   :-? :

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                        • #42
                          Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

                          What I mean by that TG is that Ive never been given a dbl shot flat white as a short mac. Ive ordered dble flats and I get a dbl flat. I order a short mac and I get a short mac - stain included!

                          As for ringing cafes.... W.A. stands for wait awhile, so Itll have to wait until I tie the string inbetween the two cans and check for dial tone.

                          Now thats weird! :-?

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                          • #43
                            Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

                            Ive had enough of all this debate.

                            Here is what Sunbeam says in the 6910 User Guide:

                            MACCHIATO
                            Macchiato, Italian for to stain or mark.
                            Traditionally served as a standard espresso
                            with a dash of milk and a small dollop of
                            froth into the middle of the crema.
                            - 90mL espresso glass or demitasse cup
                            - single or double espresso
                            - marked with steamed milk


                            Let that be the end of it.

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                            • #44
                              Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

                              Originally posted by 172B362D272631242C27430 link=1141787120/42#42 date=1243673606
                              Ive had enough of all this debate.

                              Here is what Sunbeam says in the 6910 User Guide:

                              MACCHIATO
                              Macchiato, Italian for to stain or mark.
                              Traditionally served as a standard espresso
                              with a dash of milk and a small dollop of
                              froth into the middle of the crema.
                              - 90mL espresso glass or demitasse cup
                              - single or double espresso
                              - marked with steamed milk


                              Let that be the end of it.  
                              Ahh...thanks for that TG....Where would we be without Sumbean ;D

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                              • #45
                                Re: What is a "proper" macchiato?

                                Originally posted by 207F67717A717D747477777F737C120 link=1141787120/43#43 date=1243673803
                                thanks for that TG....Where would we be without Sumbean
                                Youre welcome.

                                I think more people should refer to their website before asking questions, so that no arguments like this one start. ;D

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