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  • #16
    Re: List your coffee myths

    Actually, wouldnt a stovetop have Less??? as it brews the coffee at a higher temp??

    telemaster, Italian Machines are awesome compared to the Chinese equivalent (If there is an Equivalent) - You will always get agreement on that - however at least the Chinese made machines gives people the chance to make decent coffee at home without wiping there bank accounts out....

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    • #17
      Re: List your coffee myths

      Originally posted by marcstolk link=1160879403/15#15 date=1160960328
      Actually, wouldnt a stovetop have Less??? as it brews the coffee at a higher temp??

      telemaster, Italian Machines are awesome compared to the Chinese equivalent (If there is an Equivalent) - You will always get agreement on that - however at least the Chinese made machines gives people the chance to make decent coffee at home without wiping there bank accounts out....
      aha, maybe another myth- my son has the old saeco via venezia- going new for 475, add 45 for non pressurised handle- the espresso with that handle is very close to the silvia /botticelli

      in the hands of an experienced operator it will give much better espresso than a commercial hx in the hands of a cafe hack! (no insult to the growing band of baristas who are worth their weight in gold)

      still lets hope that the new sunbeam makes chinese manufacture and reliable espresso not a mythical statement- i believe it is possible and has been marred by a rush to cut corners- lets hope sunbeam has learned and will lift their game
      all the best
      brett

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      • #18
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        Hi Brett,

        I have to say, now that Im on the 3rd machine, its been the most reliable of the past and shows no signs of problems and produces a great espresso (in my book anyway)... perhaps the initial problems have now by and large been resolved. But the new Sunbeam offers promise....

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        • #19
          Re: List your coffee myths

          Actually, wouldnt a stovetop have Less??? as it brews the coffee at a higher temp??
          I think you will find that caffeine takes relatively longer time to extract than our prized coffee oils.  When extracting espresso the caffeine only has 30 seconds to dissolve into our tiny cups, however when brewed over a longer period, such as a press pot more caffeine is extracted from the grounds.  On the other hand the pressure that hits the coffee during espresso increases the amount of caffeine however not enough to reverse the first point.

          Temperature may have some impact also however I believe time is the greatest influence.

          My $0.02.

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          • #20
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            Is it a myth to say coffeesnobs are better looking, more intelligent, have better taste etc than tea drinkers. Or is the only part of this that isnt mythical the intelligence part- coffee buffs (including manufacturers and educators) have found ways to get to spend huge amounts of time and money in a way that tea drinkers could only dream about!
            Brett

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            • #21
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              Dan, that makes sense... thanks...

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              • #22
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                It is said in Italy that if you want the best espresso you have to go to the busiest bar because the machine that works the hardest makes the best espresso and the machines on the auto route must work the hardest in Italy because the coffee from them tastes like it was made by God himself. To make the perfect cappuccino (machine excluded) you first have to put a large shot of the finest espresso in the cup then steam the milk until it is hot and thick (almost impossible on a home-type espresso maker). Roll the milk around like you are swirling a wine and tap it on the table a few times to release the larger bubbles then with a shaking motion add it to the shot of espresso. If you are very good you can make a little heart. Add lots of sugar and you have it. Sounds simple, but it ain’t!..
                From the Book Of Rai
                Food Forum

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                • #23
                  Re: List your coffee myths

                  Originally posted by telemaster link=1160879403/15#19 date=1160967195
                  Is it a myth to say coffeesnobs are better looking, more intelligent, have better taste etc
                  Brett
                  Its not a myth its a fact.

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                  • #24
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                    In my case it is a mix of myth and fact.

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                    • #25
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                      Originally posted by grendel link=1160879403/15#23 date=1161005814
                      In my case it is a mix of myth and fact.
                      Myct?

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                      • #26
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                        All myct up

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                        • #27
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                          Originally posted by grendel link=1160879403/15#23 date=1161005814
                          In my case it is a mix of myth and fact.
                          So, grendel, which is it? Are you less intelligent or do you have poor taste? Weve seen photos, we know youre goodlooking.

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                          • #28
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                            Originally posted by Viviane link=1160879403/15#26 date=1161071569
                            Originally posted by grendel link=1160879403/15#23 date=1161005814
                            In my case it is a mix of myth and fact.
                            So, grendel, which is it? Are you less intelligent or do you have poor taste? Weve seen photos, we know youre goodlooking.
                            Youll go far Viviane- your name is well chosen!
                            Brett

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                            • #29
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                              Dont know about that, Brett, I seem to have brought this thread to a screaming halt....

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                              • #30
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                                Originally posted by Viviane link=1160879403/15#28 date=1161179916
                                Dont know about that, Brett, I seem to have brought this thread to a screaming halt....
                                Oh well does this mean you, or noone else, have any more myths?
                                Heres Alan Frews top 10 coffee myths:

                                http://www.coffeegeek.com/opinions/alanfrew/07-15-2002

                                it makes for interesting reading

                                Brett

                                ps My roaster friend is beginning to reintroduce robusta to his blends (and I have to admit they tast great) so myth 2 may be contentious

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