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Experience is very important and i have many memories of great coffees overseas. I believe the talent of baristi in Australia is pretty amazing and at a higher standard that the Italians. The best Italians baristi would not be able to touch the Aussies or kiwis. Italians drink better coffee than Australians, I give them that.
Slowdown you should see me when a customer tells me how to make coffee. They usually regret it!
Originally posted by AndyL link=1185414494/30#31 date=1193565187
Italians drink better coffee than Australians, I give them that.
They also pay a lot less.
I was there a couple of weeks ago: €0.70 for an espresso, €1.00 for a cappuccino. (at the counter)
IMHO weve come a long way in the last 10 years re coffee quality in cafes, but as you say, they have it over us re the coffee they have available to them.
In Melbourne. Cafe is in Canterbury and customers are a times a little RICH!! Lets say the average property rose by 96 percent in a year!!! Was going up $10000 a week in some places!! Average house went for 1.1 million last year. So i get the occasional lesson in coffee.
But i do know so many baristi in Perth. Pretty impressive team in Perth I must say and only getting better. Perth is a city that is pushing coffee to another level.
All that sounds familiar. Certainly pushing the coffee to another level in my house (cant say the same for the house price now but - on the way down methinks).
Now that pricing observation is true - why is that?
Why would a cappucino cost just $1.60 in Italy (give or take).
I would have thought the law of one price should hold - at least for the beans.
So that leaves the other bits - labour mainly. Overally, Italy seems to be very good value for Australians (unlike France).
That suggests to me that if they didnt have the Euro, they would have a low lira exchange rate that would make our dollars look good (ie. you would get lots of lira).
As it is, they now have a high exchange rate value Euro, so their price level is low....
Good work Ken. I think a latte needs to go up to $3.20 soon espresso stay the same. Milk has gone thru the roof. I heard prices of milk in Germany went up 50 percent.
The average price for a coffee in Adelaide is $3. Some places charge more, some less. I had a very nice coffee for $2.50 last week at a small shop near the Centrelink office in the city.
Milk has gone up at least 5 times this year. From petrol, drought and everything else. Cheese is going thru the roof as well. Also china has put a huge impact on the world dairy market. A country that really never liked milk is loving it. This years drought is going to make it hard for many cafe owners.
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