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  • #31
    Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

    I have no idea what the poll question means.

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    • #32
      Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

      Experience is very important and i have many memories of great coffees overseas. I believe the talent of baristi in Australia is pretty amazing and at a higher standard that the Italians. The best Italians baristi would not be able to touch the Aussies or kiwis. Italians drink better coffee than Australians, I give them that.

      Slowdown you should see me when a customer tells me how to make coffee. They usually regret it!

      Andrew

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      • #33
        Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

        Careful there Andy - you might start acting like an Italian. No, just joking. ;D

        Are you in Perth? Sounds like I need to sample your coffee (un ristretto, per favore).

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        • #34
          Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

          Originally posted by AndyL link=1185414494/30#31 date=1193565187
          Italians drink better coffee than Australians, I give them that.
          They also pay a lot less.
          I was there a couple of weeks ago: €0.70  for an espresso, €1.00 for a cappuccino. (at the counter)

          IMHO weve come a long way in the last 10 years re coffee quality in cafes, but as you say, they have it over us re the coffee they have available to them.

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          • #35
            Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

            In Melbourne. Cafe is in Canterbury and customers are a times a little RICH!! Lets say the average property rose by 96 percent in a year!!! Was going up $10000 a week in some places!! Average house went for 1.1 million last year. So i get the occasional lesson in coffee.

            But i do know so many baristi in Perth. Pretty impressive team in Perth I must say and only getting better. Perth is a city that is pushing coffee to another level.

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            • #36
              Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

              All that sounds familiar. Certainly pushing the coffee to another level in my house (cant say the same for the house price now but - on the way down methinks).

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              • #37
                Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

                Now that pricing observation is true - why is that?

                Why would a cappucino cost just $1.60 in Italy (give or take).

                I would have thought the law of one price should hold - at least for the beans.

                So that leaves the other bits - labour mainly. Overally, Italy seems to be very good value for Australians (unlike France).

                That suggests to me that if they didnt have the Euro, they would have a low lira exchange rate that would make our dollars look good (ie. you would get lots of lira).

                As it is, they now have a high exchange rate value Euro, so their price level is low....

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                • #38
                  Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

                  Hopefully someone has the guts to put up coffee prices in Melbourne per cup. Its getting damn expensive to make a good cup of coffee!!

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                  • #39
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                    Andy
                    Just moved mine up 20c a couple of weeks ago. No probs.even though lots of competition cheaper
                    Ken

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                    • #40
                      Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

                      Good work Ken. I think a latte needs to go up to $3.20 soon espresso stay the same. Milk has gone thru the roof. I heard prices of milk in Germany went up 50 percent.

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                      • #41
                        Re: Can Italians make great coffee?

                        The average price for a coffee in Adelaide is $3. Some places charge more, some less. I had a very nice coffee for $2.50 last week at a small shop near the Centrelink office in the city.

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                        • #42
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                          Milk has gone up at least 5 times this year. From petrol, drought and everything else. Cheese is going thru the roof as well. Also china has put a huge impact on the world dairy market. A country that really never liked milk is loving it. This years drought is going to make it hard for many cafe owners.

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