Roasted to order coffee-mail order ? anyone

[marc]

Hi

I have tried maybe three online mail order cofffee traders for roasted beans with varying success.
One was great, and was roasted the previous day, the others were roasted I feel a few weeks ago, so loack of crema etc etc.

Can anyone recommend a coffee place that roast batches which are actually fresh.

I am in Melbourne but it does not matter really which state it comes from.

I have the same problem with some so called shops with fresh roasted beans in large baskets. I wont name them, but the baskets often take two weeks two empty and sit in air conditioned stores and in sunlight, so loose the fresh tag.

Mind you no one seems to complain and the shops are busy.


anyway thanks for any ideas ?

cheers

[marc]

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ps

yes i have ordered from this site, ROAST to Order, Well my partner does, and its the good one. I just thought we should try a few more places for ourselves and friends with machines.

[JavaB]

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Hi



Can anyone recommend a coffee place that roast batches which are actually fresh.

I am in Melbourne but it does not matter really which state it comes from.

anyway thanks for any ideas ?

cheers

Mmmmm.... you are a member of CoffeeSnobs.... and the site provider and major sponsor (Andy) roasts some of the best coffee in Australia... and is located in Melbourne!!!!!

So why not support the person who "owns" this site and click on "Buy Brown" on the left of the page...... you wont be disappointed and need look no further.

P.S. there are also a lot of other site sponsors who are coffee roasters as well.... and promoting a non site sponsors goods or services..... isnt really on..... after all this site is only here because of them!

[marc]

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Java B....read again my previous post...

We have already done this.. and are happy and will use again/...... Andy is king....i agree, and the site is his, which I too appreciate...

as i said, just wanted to try others.

My friends used coffeehit as well,(sponsor) but find it is hit and miss. .....

Also they are not roasted to order as some of the others do.. how old ?? who knows how old some are.

anyway, just having a discussion where people can unleash their freshness woes..

Alan Frew has a good brew............I always try to use local roasters as well, but their are some shockers, and it does not matter what gear they have on display.
cheers

[JavaB]

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Hi marc....

What I was saying is that we cant /wont recommend roasters that are not site sponsors - not here on this site!

There is one local roaster Ive used (when Ive had an unexpected peak demand - and my own roasts are low) and their roasts are excellent.....

And others have probably had similar experiences.... but Im not going to post details of the one I use as that would kneecap our sponsors...... and there is plenty of choice available from them......

[scoota_gal]

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Veneziano Caffe is located in Melbourne. You could even go and visit them and if you are keen, can even have beans roasted whilst you wait!

Otherwise, you can order from them. But if youre in Melbourne, do yourself a favour and get over to see them in person!

[lucinda]

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Veneziano Caffe is located in Melbourne. You could even go and visit them and if you are keen, can even have beans roasted whilst you wait!

Otherwise, you can order from them. But if youre in Melbourne, do yourself a favour and get over to see them in person!

I was going to suggest that myself.

Or... you can start roasting yourself. It doesnt take long to do a roasteither.

The cheapest start is a popper and a starter pack from Andy.
http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1174699442

[>Veneziano]

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Hi All,

Thankyou very much for thinking of us!

I wanted to just let everyone know that our sample roaster is currently down for repairs. We anticipate that it will be back up and running either this week or next. Simon James will be taking over from me at First Pour until the end of January, whilst I am in Sydney. I havent spoken to Simon about the sample roaster yet, but I anticipate that the sample roaster will not be available whist Simon is on duty.

Regarding roasting to order: Apart from roasts done to order on the sample roaster we do not roast immediately before sending the coffee out or selling it in store. Peter has what appears to be a somewhat unpopular roasting style that means that his roasts tend to need to sit around and degas until they peak. If we sold them right out of the roaster, I think that people would be very disappointed! Frankly, selling coffee right after roasting it would give us a lot more space in the roastery and would generally make logistics a lot easier to manage. We like our coffee this way, but we appreciate that there is more than one way to skin a cat. (PS. We tend to recommend letting the roasts from the sample roaster degas for five days or so for espresso use.)

Regarding storing and displaying coffee: Marc, I dont think that your comments about bins were directed towards us, seeing as we use hoppers rather than bins. That said, we had quite a bit of discussion before deciding to put the hoppers up and I think that it might be of interest to the CS community. In a nutshell, we went with the coffee hoppers because (a) we think they look cool against what would otherwise be a big empty wall, (b) they make it easy to dispense coffee without spills and (c) they provide a powerful visual clue that you can actually buy coffee at First Pour.

The hoppers do require us to pay a fair bit of attention to turnover. Fortunately, this has proved to be quite manageable. We bought relatively small hoppers, so we try and keep only a kg or so of coffee in the hoppers and this gets used up pretty quickly between retail sales, espresso and the training room. Towards the end of the week, we tend to let the hoppers empty so that there isnt much sitting around over the weekend. So often on Saturdays it will look like we are running out of coffee - we arent; were just keeping it in sealed bags under the counter. We tend to write the roast dates on the metal bits at the bottom of the tubes. This might be difficult to read from the other side of the counter, so feel free to ask whoever is behind the bar. Or to go around the side to take a stickybeak for yourself. Occasionally we will let some coffee sit in some of the single origin hoppers whilst we are waiting to roast replacement hoppers, so please forgive us if we refuse to sell you that coffee and suggest an alternative.

Best of luck finding some mail order coffee that you like, Marc. If you are going to order coffee by mail, it is a great opportunity to try out things that you might not otherwise have access to.

Cheers,

Luca