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  • Sunbeam EM 3800. Pour is too quick

    Hi
    Can anyone help me with this? Cant seem to get a good pour,its all over in about 10 sec. I`m using pre ground coffee that seem to be be fine enough and have tried different levels of tamping but to no avail. Pours are lightish brown but nothing like dripping honey.  Not knowing much about making espresso when I first got the machine back in Sep last yaer I thought  erverything was fine but after researching about the art of good coffee Its definetly not While I realise it not a top of the range machine I expected it to be able to make a half decent coffee
    Robert

  • #2
    Re: Sunbeam EM 3800. Pour is too quick

    What coffee are you using? How fresh is it? When was it ground?

    Poor coffee to begin with and/or stale coffee will be very difficult to get a slow dripping honey from.

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    • #3
      Re: Sunbeam EM 3800. Pour is too quick

      Ive only used the pre packaged coffee from the supermarket, Lavazza,Vittoria etc Have bought some beans aslo from the supermarket and tried this but as I only have blade grinder it isnit real fine enough

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      • #4
        Re: Sunbeam EM 3800. Pour is too quick

        Hi Robert,

        Firstly, you really need to get a decent drinder. Even a 4150 Sunbeam will make a massive difference. Your blade grinder might be ok for spice, but dont let it near coffee!

        Also, you have a 0.01% chance of buying coffee whice is fresh from the stoopidmarket. Try to source some fresh stuff from someone who roasts with integrity.

        Just these two changes should improve things substantially...

        Good luck

        2mcm

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        • #5
          Re: Sunbeam EM 3800. Pour is too quick

          Ok. So what you are saying is supermarket stuff is no good? Although I understand Its best ground and use as required if I can find someone local who can grind me say a weeks supply of coffee this should fix the problem until I could get a burr grinder.

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          • #6
            Re: Sunbeam EM 3800. Pour is too quick

            Robert,

            Good time to point out "the rule of 3s" as it is called!

            Green beans last 3 years...
            Roasted beans.... 3 weeks
            Ground beans a mere 3 minutes!!!

            So stupidmarket roast beans are probably months.... even a year or more post roast.... any good????..... nope well past it!!

            Coffee which is pre-ground (unless you live next to the roaster and bring it home and use all of it straight away) will also be stale before it is used......

            The ONLY answer to quality coffee is to purchase freshly roasted beans from a quality roaster..... get yourself a burr grinder (at least a Sunbeam EM 0450... preferably better) and grind as required.

            You wont believe the difference it will make!

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            • #7
              Re: Sunbeam EM 3800. Pour is too quick

              Looks like ive been doing it wrong from the start then. Is all about fresh then and not the coffee machine. Better save my pennies for a burr grinder then. Thanks for all the advice.
              Robert

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              • #8
                Re: Sunbeam EM 3800. Pour is too quick

                The more I learn about coffee making the more complex I realise it is. Having said that, we all start somewhere and the challenge is not to become too despondent at an early stage because there are variables that you simply cant control at this point in time.
                If you have an espresso machine, that good. You dont have a good grinder - thats a challenge. It might be a strategy for you to buy some fresh beans (from a Forum sponsor) and then identify someone with a good grinder near where you live, and grind some beans on different settings to see what works best. That kind person might be willing to grind some beans for you once a week in return for say, an occasional bottle of wine/six pack/pack of beans.
                Still doesnt solve your problem but can be a stop-gap measure & keeps your spirits up while you save up for a grinder. Dont think good machine, good grinder, good beans necessarily immediately equals good coffee however, because there are heaps more variables to deal with. Its a journey.....
                Good luck.

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                • #9
                  Re: Sunbeam EM 3800. Pour is too quick

                  Thanks Rocky Think I may know someone close with a grinder so I think Ill go seee him about grinding some beens as a trial to see if there is any improvement. Think he may be a wine drinker too.

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