Amanti coffee

[Trizo]

Hi everyone,

Im new and dont know much about coffee. My mum has a cafe and we use amanti and the blend is called "mocha latte". Im just wondering if you guys have tried this or have any experience with amanti coffee? Im currently trying to do some research into other brands and also trying to learn about what goes into creating different blends... Id like to do some experimenting to see whats out there.

Any information or help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

[martybean]

Re: Amanti coffee

Trizo, while I am no expert let us know were your mums cafe is located and that way some of our sponspors or more knowledgable snobs may be able to help.
Many cafes use amanti and many cant make coffee

[TC]

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I remember the Amanti stall at fine food in Melbourne a few years ago...Motorised umbrellas spinning, 8 coffeemakers on a massive machine (was that 8 x 2 gp and 100m of duct tape?  :), huge milk jugs full o reheated scum and mediocrity everywhere. It was 99.9% marketing bling and 0.1% coffee....

Earlier this year, I did a crawl through Melbourne with one of the ECA guys to look at some coffee variety. We had breaky coffee at Switchboard- perfect, very average Italian import stuff at Journal (great fitout though), a good shot at BBB (bit grassy underoast for me) and then were blown away by a god shot at Octane at the GPO...

Had a chat with the barista and was absolutley floored to find that Amanti were supplying them ..Maybe it was just one of those freakish days...Dunno...

Perhaps this was a new beginning....Who knows?  :-?

[blanyon]

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The worst coffee I have ever had was in the hunter and it was amanti, however my fav cafe in Griffith also uses it and makes great coffee (not sure of the blend). Depends on freshness, backup support and the person behind the machine.

[steve]

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I sometimes go to a cafe that use Amanti, it is drinkable without being amazing. The barista seems pretty competent and the milk etc is good. I have even got a bag off them once so I could try it at home. Result was again drinkable but nothing special.

I havent been there for nearly 2 months however so I dont know if anything has changed.

[Trizo]

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Hi Everyone,

Thanks for responses. The cafe is located down the far south coast of NSW. It is about 3hrs from Canberra and 6-6.5 from Sydney CBD. We often get great feedback from customers about our coffee.. and we look after our machine by cleaning about 2 times per day. A lot of european tourists say we have great coffee too. I know the old saying "if it aint broke dont fix it" but with all the beans out there on the market I was just curious about what others may have discovered in terms of support, equipment/servicing etc...

If the Baristi take pride in their product then I guess a bigger and better machine and a similar but more cost effective supplier will only result in greater coffee!

Hope to hear from more of you! cheers

[A_M]

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I know the old saying "if it aint broke dont fix it" but with all the beans out there on the market I was just curious about what others may have discovered in terms of support, equipment/servicing etc...

"if it aint broke dont fix it" is an often miss Quoted saying and often out of context.

Just because the car is running... Does not mean that you do not need to service it.. Same as a coffee machine and or other equipment...

How often do you clean your grinder ?

If the Baristi take pride in their product then I guess a bigger and better machine and a similar but more cost effective supplier will only result in greater coffee!

In the first instance a bigger machine and "cost effective supplier" has little if any bearing on the quality of the coffee!!!

Sounds like a sales pitch... Oh, do you want to buy a bridge

"cost effective supplier" sounds like some one has done a deal to put in a Bigger machine and offered a better deal on the beans

Sorry... A TOP Quality Barista can do a lot with poor beans, if they have the right grinder / machine and time to tweak etc... But it is not cost effective or an efficient process. And the coffee will never be great.. You may be able to hide it in the milk and the use of other additions, but a straight shot will give the game away...

Poor beans and a great machine = crap coffee; when managed by most people attempting to pull a shot...

In many of the big clubs, you will see Big machines, well known beans being used.... But to date, I have never had more than a passable coffee, from any of them...

My CEO in general, only ever gets to drink about 40% of all the coffees he has ever paid for... He enjoyed a shot at Veneziano Caffe the other week, but indicated he has yet to have 3 or more coffees in a place; where he has been able to drink every one...

I have watched him leave coffee at some of the more respectable coffee places in Brisbane.... Yet he has been happy to drop around to my place to disscuss an issue and ask if I am making a coffee :-[

He has downed two but refused the last one (with comment)... I respect that... He was also right... IT was less than ideal :-[ :-[ :-[

Trizo... Do some training, get some hands on in a number of places and after a year or two; you will be much more experienced....

[martybean]

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Trizo, if you want to improve the business by getting more customers, then you could try some of our sponsors products, you can use the contacting all coffeesnobs sponsors function in the sponsors area.

[GregJW]

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Trizo,

Sounds like you should be talking to Euro Coffee at Batemans Bay and Cosmorex at Canberra (see left <<&lt.

[Trizo]

Re: Amanti coffee

I know the old saying "if it aint broke dont fix it" but with all the beans out there on the market I was just curious about what others may have discovered in terms of support, equipment/servicing etc...

"if it aint broke dont fix it"  is an often miss Quoted saying and often out of context.

Just because the car is running... Does not mean that you do not need to service it..  Same as a coffee machine and or other equipment...

How often do you clean your grinder ?

If the Baristi take pride in their product then I guess a bigger and better machine and a similar but more cost effective supplier will only result in greater coffee!

In the first instance a bigger machine and "cost effective supplier" has little if  any bearing on the quality of the coffee!!!

Sounds like a sales pitch... Oh, do you want to buy a bridge  

"cost effective supplier" sounds like some one has done a deal to put in a Bigger machine and offered a better deal on the beans  

Sorry...  A TOP Quality Barista can do a lot with poor beans, if they have the right grinder / machine and time to tweak etc... But it is not cost effective or an efficient process.  And the coffee will never be great..  You may be able to hide it in the milk and the use of other additions, but a straight shot will give the game away...

Poor beans and a great machine = crap coffee; when managed by most people attempting to pull a shot...

In many of the big clubs, you will see Big machines, well known beans being used....  But to date, I have never had more than a passable coffee, from any of them...

My CEO in general, only ever gets to drink about 40% of all the coffees he has ever paid for...   He enjoyed  a shot at Veneziano Caffe the other week, but indicated he has yet to have 3 or more coffees in a place; where he has been able to drink every one...

I have watched him leave coffee at some of the more respectable coffee places in Brisbane....  Yet he has been happy to drop around to my place to disscuss an issue and ask if I am making a coffee  :-[

He has downed two but refused the last one (with comment)...  I respect that...  He was also right... IT was less than ideal  :-[ :-[ :-[

Trizo...  Do some training, get some hands on in a number of places and after a year or two; you will be much more experienced....

I meant that quote with the consideration that a lot of customers give positive feedback on our coffee..I didnt mean to get so precise with the quote.. it was more like if a lot of people are satisfied with our product, why change?

I also didnt mean that bigger is better... I have learnt quite a lot about coffee alreadyand I have never thought a bigger machine is better etc... I just meant that if there is another brand/blend/type of coffee that I feel is = or > what we are using then I wanted to know what extra benefits may arise from using other suppliers...i.e. more advanced equipment...economies of scale through buying power of larger company etc .... I should have explained myself with a bit more context than I previously did.

Anyway I think your points are definitely valid and will take on boar what youve said. I hope to be this passionate about coffee in 2 years time as I am now

Feel free to give me any more tips... oh by the way... I wouldnt be able to tell you how often the grinder is cleaned because Ive never actually done it before..but someone else at the cafe definitely would but Im not sure how often and how? Ill find out in the mean time anyway and get back to you. Let me know what your thoughts are on cleaning the grinder. Cheers,
Trizo

[Trizo]

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Trizo,

Sounds like you should be talking to Euro Coffee at Batemans Bay and Cosmorex at Canberra (see left <<&lt.

Thanks Greg, will check them out!

[A_M]

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I just meant that if there is another brand/blend/type of coffee that I feel is = or > what we are using then I wanted to know what extra benefits may arise from using other suppliers...i.e. more advanced equipment...economies of scale through buying power of larger company etc .... I should have explained myself with a bit more context than I previously did.

Then the issue here is about marketing and the best fit for the business that is being run..

A cafe that is focused on what ???

1: Food and the odd coffee
2: A place that attracts serious coffee drinkers - may be the odd cake or biscoto ?

I am not sure how old you are or your experience in the hospitality field, but I get the feeling it is minimal... Any number of TAFE and other part time courses that would provide you some back ground and basics...

Geting involved in an contract or emotional attachments will cost you and those around you...

Until you can come up with a true business plan that covers off on teh following...

1. Executive Summary
1.1. Objectives
1.2. Mission
1.3. Keys to Success
2. Company Summary
2.1. Company Ownership
2.2. Start-up Summary
2.3. Company Locations and Facilities-
3. Products and Services
3.1. Product Description
3.2. Competitive Comparison-
3.3. Sourcing
3.4. Future Products
4. Market Analysis Summary
4.1. Market Segmentation
4.2. Target Market Segment Strategy
4.2.1. Market Needs-
4.2.2. Market Trends-
4.2.3. Market Growth-
4.3. Service Business Analysis
4.3.1. Competition and Buying Patterns
4.3.2. Distribution Patterns
4.3.3. Main Competitors-2
5. Strategy and Implementation Summary
5.1. Competitive Edge
5.2. Marketing Strategy
5.3. Sales Strategy
5.3.1. Sales Forecast
5.4. Milestones
5.5. Strategy Pyramids-2
5.6. Value Proposition-2
5.7. Strategic Alliances-2
6. Management Summary
6.1. Untitled
6.2. Personnel Plan
7. Financial Plan
7.1. Important Assumptions
7.2. Break-even Analysis
7.3. Projected Profit and Loss
7.4. Projected Cash Flow
7.5. Projected Balance Sheet
7.6. Business Ratios
7.7. Exit Strategy

Take it slowly and enjoy the path to enlightenment..

Sounds like you should be talking to Euro Coffee at Batemans Bay and Cosmorex at Canberra (see left <<&lt.

I also support the comment above.

[Fresh_Coffee]

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Many thanks,

I appreciate the comment.

Attilio.