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  • #31
    Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

    At the risk of disagreeing with our more venerable members, 95% of restaurants I go to I simply wouldnt order coffee - but 95% of the general populus would, even if it wasnt at "coffeesnob standard".
    You guys are projecting your views on coffee to the general populus, which really isnt indicative of how the public will react.

    If I go to a pizza place, I want good pizza. If I order a coffee and its bad I wouldnt order another, but it wouldnt stop me coming back for another pizza if it was good. Cut the guy some slack, hes asking how he can prepare coffee quickly - if he wasnt concerned about quality, hed just go ahead and do it, rather than asking enthusiasts if it was viable.

    One response I read above was interesting - offering one free plunger coffee for each person dining in could be a way to bring them around to what you have available, with a minimal cost to yourself. A one week promo may even bring in more customers if its marketed well.

    Good luck!

    Grant

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    • #32
      Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

      Originally posted by 407C617A707166737B70140 link=1240105425/29#29 date=1240290141
      However they also have a rep for being "pizza nazis".
      They have "Rules" posted on the wall.
      Things like "NO half and half", "NO pineapple" etc.
      The rules dont stop the place being packed out every night.
      I think people enjoy this sort of experiential thing; bragging right and all that - like going to France and expect to be insulted by the waiters in French.

      I also dont usually have coffee after a meal but if someone said to me, "you really must try the coffee here - its second to none", Id make an exception.

      Asking people in a forum called "Coffee Snobs" about what sort of coffee should be served, you would expect the sort of responses that you have seen. If I go to a pizza joint, then the quality of the pizza will get me back there. If the coffees not good, I wont order coffee.

      What sort of patrons do you attract? If they usually visit the pub before they visit your pizza shop then quality of the coffee probably wont matter.

      What sort of patrons would you like to attract? If you would like to attract a more discerning customer then a plunger is not good enough but this sort of customer probably doesnt often choose pizza as a cuisine.

      To answer your original question, I think your customers have already answered it and they are always right. Get yourself a good machine and serve them a proper cappuccino.

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      • #33
        Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

        Originally posted by 2D3922252C2E142F3C2E27272E394B0 link=1240105425/30#30 date=1240291877
        If I go to a pizza place, I want good pizza. If I order a coffee and its bad I wouldnt order another, but it wouldnt stop me coming back for another pizza if it was good. Cut the guy some slack, hes asking how he can prepare coffee quickly - if he wasnt concerned about quality, hed just go ahead and do it, rather than asking enthusiasts if it was viable.
        exactly - thanks . Ive always stated that Im not prepared to serve bad coffee...just trying to find out if its possible to speed up the process in this way. Most of the people who ask for coffee are far from being coffeesnobs

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        • #34
          Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

          Originally posted by 0B544C5A515A565F5F5C5C545857390 link=1240105425/27#27 date=1240283742
          Originally posted by 53465544474055340 link=1240105425/24#24 date=1240278918
          .... and I think for this reason its a bit harsh to not return to a restaurant that gave you good food but bad coffee ...although admittedly they should be endeavoring to be good at everything
          I disagree grapsta,

          Apathy kills businesses and if you dont bite the bullet, it will ultimately kill yours too when someone sees an opportunity to outcompete you by doing what you do, but better.

          You want to cut corners here, so I cannot but wonder where else??  :-?

          Good luck....because I suspect youre going to need it...

          2mcm
          your being a tad cynical I reckon...Im trying to speed up a process so its viable..but Im researching to see if it can be done with an acceptable quality level...thats hardly apathetic . Most people running restaurants are constantly trying to find ways to speed up the service .

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          • #35
            Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

            Originally posted by 6E7B68797A7D68090 link=1240105425/32#32 date=1240307756
            exactly - thanks . Ive always stated that Im not prepared to serve bad coffee...just trying to find out if its possible to speed up the process in this way.Most of the people who ask for coffee are far from being coffeesnobs
            All the big boys such as maccas, Hungry Jacks etc are always looking at ways to speed up the process from cooking and serving food and making coffee, and the only way to do that is by automatic machine. press a button and wait. I know that doesnt fit your budget grapsta but thats the quickest way in my opinion.

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            • #36
              Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

              Im gonna open a cafe with Roburs and Synessos or FB80s wall to wall and serve microwaved Pappa Guiseppe pizzas as my food offer...

              Anyone wanna come?   :P ;D

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              • #37
                Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

                In this sick world you may just get a following there.

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                • #38
                  Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

                  Just make the pizza. Work out about what time people start ordering coffee and ring a mobile van tell him to park out the front, and make coffee as your customers are leaving. That way you can plonk some more bums on the seats to eat the pizza. Then take a cashy kick back from the mobile coffee van sitting out the front. Everyones happy then.

                  PS. Make sure its not the idiot selling cold shots.

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                  • #39
                    Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

                    When I go out with friends for dinner, if they want coffee its usually back to my place.

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                    • #40
                      Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

                      Originally posted by 102C312A202136232B20440 link=1240105425/29#29 date=1240290141

                      However they also have a rep for being "pizza nazis".
                      They have "Rules" posted on the wall.
                      Things like "NO half and half", "NO pineapple" etc.
                      The rules dont stop the place being packed out every night.
                      well half and half is a pain in the ass ..and not traditional

                      ....and pineapple to a pizza snob is like robusta beans ( or reheated shots by the looks ) to a coffeesnob

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                      • #41
                        Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

                        [QUOTE=202A3F2828273335460 link=1240105425/31#31 date=1240292782]
                        Originally posted by 407C617A707166737B70140 link=1240105425/29#29 date=1240290141

                        What sort of patrons would you like to attract? If you would like to attract a more discerning customer then a plunger is not good enough but this sort of customer probably doesnt often choose pizza as a cuisine.
                        rich people and foodies eat pizza too. ..plus the whole reason I started doing plungers was after reading pro -french press articles in coffee mags and websites....but try selling punters on the idea of this being an acceptable way to drink/serve coffee. one day. Anyways - guess Ill just keep trying with the plungers

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                        • #42
                          Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

                          ...and Ill stop feeding the trolls. Suggest we all do likewise :

                          Thread referred to mod team.....

                          2mcm

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                          • #43
                            Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

                            what you wanna lose my thread down?. jeez Im just asking questions.

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                            • #44
                              Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

                              Smells like toast? Italy praises perfect espresso
                              4 days ago

                              ROME (AFP) — Seventy million cups a day, or 2.92 million cups an hour, or 48,600 per minute, or 810 per second. No matter how you count it, Italians do love their espresso coffee.
                              And on Friday, Italys first-ever national espresso day, they were reminded by no less an authority than the National Italian Espresso Institute what makes the perfect "caffe".
                              "An espresso must have a light, finely textured, noisette-coloured foam, and its colour must be uniform," the institutes president Gianluigi Sora told AFP. "Its aroma must be that of grilled bread."

                              To explain as much, 350,000 pamphlets setting out the golden rules of espresso went out to 3,500 coffee bars, including one that stipulates that a barista must fill a 25-millilitre cup in 25 seconds -- no more, no less.

                              Not overlooked was the cappuccino -- an espresso topped with hot milk and a steamed-milk foam that must, according to the pamphlet, be freshly made for each and every cup.

                              Based in the northern city of Brescia, the National Italian Espresso Institute is an industry group founded in 1998 that is committed to "safeguarding the philosophy of espresso".

                              I am done.

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                              • #45
                                Re: Is it possible to refrigerate shots then add milk later ????

                                Originally posted by 6B444D4F58674B444B4D4F474F445E2A0 link=1240105425/43#43 date=1240358758
                                Smells like toast? Italy praises perfect espresso
                                4 days ago

                                ROME (AFP) — Seventy million cups a day, or 2.92 million cups an hour, or 48,600 per minute, or 810 per second. No matter how you count it, Italians do love their espresso coffee.
                                And on Friday, Italys first-ever national espresso day, they were reminded by no less an authority than the National Italian Espresso Institute what makes the perfect "caffe".
                                "An espresso must have a light, finely textured, noisette-coloured foam, and its colour must be uniform," the institutes president Gianluigi Sora told AFP. "Its aroma must be that of grilled bread."

                                To explain as much, 350,000 pamphlets setting out the golden rules of espresso went out to 3,500 coffee bars, including one that stipulates that a barista must fill a 25-millilitre cup in 25 seconds -- no more, no less.

                                Not overlooked was the cappuccino -- an espresso topped with hot milk and a steamed-milk foam that must, according to the pamphlet, be freshly made for each and every cup.

                                Based in the northern city of Brescia, the National Italian Espresso Institute is an industry group founded in 1998 that is committed to "safeguarding the philosophy of espresso".

                                I am done.

                                Well done!

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