Re: The march of the flat white
The march of the flat white.
The Flat White, which originated in Aust and NZ, is taking on the Cap and Latte in the UK and Europe.
Read about it in the Ausie today.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/executive-lifestyle/aussie-flat-white-is-the-toast-of-the-trendy-coffee-set-in-london-and-berlin/story-e6frg8jo-1226001046539
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Re: Difference Latte and Flat white
Search YouTube for latte art etching theres plenty thereOriginally posted by 74737778707A6F7F7871160 link=1280742496/6#6 date=1280799934There is also some cheats with Latte art insteadof free pouring with the jug to get the art I have seen some people using a thermometer or spoon handle for psuedo art
Cant think of any references to this but I have seen it done.
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Re: Difference Latte and Flat white
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What is wrong with the process you described above ??
If 95% of trainers and franchises are training and or expecting said staff to make coffee in the manner you accurately described...
(PS: You forgot the tamping process and the never touch the grinder - it was set by the Coffee tec)
Why should the rest of us not follow what is an acceoted process and one that obviously makes money for them...
Must be good coffee ;D
Dont be one of the sheep; step away from the mob and try something a little bit left field...... Question the accepted practices
;D
Now as to a Flat white / Latte / Cappachino :P It comes down to one, two or 3 spoons of dishwasing froth and 1, 2 or 3 shakes of the coco tin :
and a good one will blister the roof of ya mouth :-X
PPS. I can name you hundreds of places that serve this stuff...
But only a few that offer something a bit left field... So I guess teh majority must be CORRECT :
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How NOT to do a Flat White and a Latte:
1. Steam the blazes out of the milk with big bubbles add extra 50% in volume.
2. Use a big spoon or a butter knife and hold back the froth with the said cutlery until youre nearly done.
2a. For flat white, continue holding back the froth.
2b. For latte, use the said cutlery and scoop the soap sud froth into the cup until it fills up.
2c. *horror* for cappucino, scoop froth as per 2b except leave more room in the cup and do the scooping more furiously, followed by an equally furious sprinkling of choco powder to cover up the abomination...

When I approach a new cafe and contemplate whether I buy a coffee there or not, Ill usually have a peek at the "barista" making the coffee and the moment he picks up the butter knife, he might as well pick up a cleaver to chase me away.
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More or less the same but different if you care to explain.Originally posted by 4279667E7364160 link=1280742496/8#8 date=1280905051I usually explain it to customers who ask; that flat white is simply an australianism of latte (milk).Therefore flatwhites and lattes are more or less the same thing, usually served in different vessels.
Originally posted by 74737778707A6F7F7871160 link=1280742496/1#1 date=1280744066Not much difference really a flat white is milk with little (5mm) to no foam while a Latte has 5-10mm of foam.I prefer a flat white to a latte (dont care about the vessel) because I dont like the extra foam.Originally posted by 5C5C5C160 link=1280742496/3#3 date=1280793784If you truly want to be authentic youd need to subtly alter your milk texturing when making a latte.
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Thanks everybody for your help, you are a great bunch of people. All I know about coffee is from this forum. I do a great a froth at home with my Silvia thanks to all the advice I find on this site.
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I do the same but I dont want people to go away complaining about us. After all we have to earn money for the hospital and provide a service.Originally posted by 6B504F575A4D3F0 link=1280742496/8#8 date=1280905051Re: the difference between flat white and latte -
I usually explain it to customers who ask; that flat white is simply an australianism of latte (milk). Therefore flatwhites and lattes are more or less the same thing, usually served in different vessels.
Its funny that in the past I have had people get really bothered when I tell them that the drinks are the same except one is in a cup and one in a glass
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I usually explain it to customers who ask; that flat white is simply an australianism of latte (milk). Therefore flatwhites and lattes are more or less the same thing, usually served in different vessels.
However where I work at the moment our latte glasses are a bit bigger than the acf cups so thats another handy differentiation to make for anyone wanting to not confuse customers/themselves. Also at home my latte glasses are 8oz and cups are 6oz, big difference. Latte = more milk. Makes sense, makes everybody happy. (I know its not universal but it works for me.
Its funny that in the past I have had people get really bothered when I tell them that the drinks are the same except one is in a cup and one in a glass - as if they have been ripped off by cafes for years.
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Youll be hard pressed getting good enough crema, which is your canvas, from a fully auto machine.Originally posted by 714251585D5A340 link=1280742496/5#5 date=1280799416But is looks so pretty, to me it is if somebody made a little extra effort for me. At home i try with my little Silvia, but Im not really successful.
Keep working with your Silvia at home though because if you persist youll learn techniques that will help you get something decent at work, despite the limitations of the fully automated machines.
There are, including a couple of superb choices from Andy here but given youre using 5 Senses, ask their advice when youre next there and im sure theyll give you a suggestion.Originally posted by 714251585D5A340 link=1280742496/5#5 date=1280799416Is there any coffee blend that works better than another?
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I think as Moto mentioned above see about a little training with milk steaming will help and if you are close and using their beans 5sense is a good place to start. The Crema generally from Autos is not ideal for doing art on but it is not impossible.
There is also some cheats with Latte art insteadof free pouring with the jug to get the art I have seen some people using a thermometer or spoon handle for psuedo art
Cant think of any references to this but I have seen it done.
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Originally posted by 3D3A3E313933263631385F0 link=1280742496/1#1 date=1280744066Welcome
Not much difference really a flat white is milk with little (5mm) to no foam while a Latte has 5-10mm of foam. Dont panic about the Latte art it doesnt improve the taste of the coffee
But is looks so pretty, to me it is if somebody made a little extra effort for me. At home i try with my little Silvia, but Im not really successful. Is there any coffee blend that works better than another?
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thanks for your answer. Coffee is supplied by 5Senses. I will try what you suggested. It is easier for me to go and see them, they are only a few roads away from us and Im the only one who is interested to offer the best coffee I possibly can produce.Originally posted by 4C5E465945484E424B4B48484A58542D0 link=1280742496/2#2 date=1280792435I would do my milk differently for both - no stretch for the flat white but gentle stretching for the caffe latte to achieve a layered, textured effect
Who supplies the coffee?
Get them to come in and do some training - they should do so for free - afterall, you are a spokesperson for their product...
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Serve it in a glass.Originally posted by 083B282124234D0 link=1280742496/0#0 date=1280742496Now, what would be the best option to achieve both because I want to stop telling customers, sorry we are not doing Latte.
Glib answer, but the differences between the drinks are subtle and sadly the vast majority of coffee drinkers only identify the two drinks based on the vessel theyre served in.
Thats not the mention the gluttony of cafes who take the same drink, different cup approach.
If you truly want to be authentic youd need to subtly alter your milk texturing when making a latte.
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I would do my milk differently for both - no stretch for the flat white but gentle stretching for the caffe latte to achieve a layered, textured effect
Who supplies the coffee?
Get them to come in and do some training - they should do so for free - afterall, you are a spokesperson for their product...
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Welcome
Not much difference really a flat white is milk with little (5mm) to no foam while a Latte has 5-10mm of foam. Dont panic about the Latte art it doesnt improve the taste of the coffee
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