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    Andys last BeanBay email got me thinking about home roasting again.

    But then I was hit by the big question "what to buy?" so I looked for a post that discussed the typical flavours or characteristics for beans from the various regions, and couldnt find one :-? Sure, there were lots of individual posts scattered through the forum but no sticky that made it easy for me to compare.

    If it exists and I have missed it, could someone please point me in the right direction.

    Im after at the higher level a list that says something like

    Country of Origin - typical characteristics

    then maybe some of the more common beans from that region and their characteristics. This would be a very useful resource for those new to roasting and coffee in general.

    So I can just sit back now and someone else will do all the work? ;D

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    Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

    There was a Wiki web site with all of Andys bean descriptions from all past Bean Bays

    However this was attacked by spammers all the time and it was abandoned

    KK

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    • #3
      Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

      I want to start a website, Coffee and Cars ;D now that is the type of thing I would have on it, an easy guide to read about beans and their flavours/aromas from all over the world. Obviously I wont have tried anywhere near even 1% but I thought that if I could find all the reviews on a bean and then put together the consistent views then it would be close to the reality of the bean.

      Mmmm I think Im becoming a little obsessed...

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      • #4
        Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

        Thanks KK, how about you just summarise it in a post and it gets made a sticky 8-)

        Oh wait, SS is putting it in a website, got the URL for that yet SS? ;D

        patient? who me? :-[

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        • #5
          Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

          Originally posted by 43676E6E6D6D5743677B6567080 link=1297765982/1#1 date=1297768267
          There was a Wiki web site with all of Andys bean descriptions from all past Bean Bays
          Dug this out of a google search: http://coffeesnobs.com.au/attachments/CS_Wiki_27-11-08.txt

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          • #6
            Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

            Originally posted by 2C2A3D362C2B3331580 link=1297765982/3#3 date=1297769581
            Thanks KK, how about you just summarise it in a post and it gets made a sticky 8-)

            Oh wait, SS is putting it in a website, got the URL for that yet SS? ;D

            patient? who me? :-[

            If you ask Andy nicely he may have all the bean taste descriptions stored on his computer

            KK

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            • #7
              Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

              Actually.... :

              If you head into the Knock Box, thats where Andy relocates all expired BeanBay events including the cupping notes. From this post forward cupping notes became the norm.... http://coffeesnobs.com.au/YaBB.pl?num=1192525322 but before that - nada....

              Mal.

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              • #8
                Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

                Originally posted by 7B56525E533F0 link=1297765982/6#6 date=1297777753
                Actually.... Roll Eyes

                I was really hoping you had the answer when I saw the rolling eyes

                I have looked through the cupping and blending threads and whilst some of them have hints at the information I was after, it is too hard for someone of my knowledge level to put the pieces together.

                You see comments like "Guatemalan for mouth feel", add some "Columbian for hazelnut and caramel" but I have no idea if they are correct generalisations (if they can exist).

                Actually something like this (if the link is allowed)
                http://www.suite101.com/content/coffee-bean-varieties-worldwide-a37015

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                • #9
                  Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

                  I think the following link will be of interest to you trentski. Youll need to scroll down to the "navigating origins" section

                  http://www.roastmagazine.com/education/roasting101/

                  Enjoy it for what it is.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

                    Thanks Dennis, a lot of good stuff in there 8-)

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                    • #11
                      Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

                      Originally posted by 6C6A7D766C6B7371180 link=1297765982/9#9 date=1297915487
                      Thanks Dennis, a lot of good stuff in there
                      +1, excellent Dennis

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                      • #12
                        Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

                        Originally posted by 7750545B6A77505447350 link=1297765982/10#10 date=1297919125
                        Originally posted by 6C6A7D766C6B7371180 link=1297765982/9#9 date=1297915487
                        Thanks Dennis, a lot of good stuff in there
                        +1, excellent Dennis
                        Youre welcome.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

                          Originally posted by 7066636372707C75757676130 link=1297765982/8#8 date=1297907821
                          Enjoy it for what it is.
                          Sorry Dennis... scores a -1 from me and I suspect it scored similar from you with the above comment.

                          Glossy marketing generalizations wrapped to look like verbatim, cast in stone information makes me shudder and just keeps the myth alive that countries have a profile.

                          One of my pet coffee hates is quotes like:
                          Originally posted by 6761767D6760787A130 link=1297765982/7#7 date=1297904485
                          "Columbian for hazelnut and caramel"
                          I might have found 10 different countries beans that give that with some good roasting and 100 Colombian farms that dont.

                          People really have to take each bean as its own flavour journey and try and keep away from the idea that countries have a taste.

                          Farms and farmers produce coffee, not countries.

                          For giggles, Ill line-up 5 coffees from a single country one day for others to cup, you would be surprised just how different they can be.

                          There is some great origin information in that link but please skim over the flavour generalisations.

                          [Andy steps off the rant milk crate and goes back to bagging beans with a unique profile]

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                          • #14
                            Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

                            Im not surprised by your comments Andy, and I probably have as much interest as you in where beans come from as opposed to how they taste.

                            And yes, yes, we all know that the same coffee can be roasted with vastly different outcomes.

                            There is a slight contradiction in all this though. I understand you have a preference for Africans, while I dislike most Indos.

                            Another fun experiment would be to cup 5 coffees from different parts of the World, and ask which is preferred. Mix it up, repeat the process, and see how often indvidual tastes continue to pick out a coffee from the same region.

                            Like I said, enjoy it for what it is.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Summary of typical bean flavours

                              I agree with Andy that the background info about regions is interesting and you need to be guided rather than ruled by the roasting and cupping info (and even be prepared to disagree with it). But Im glad Den posted it - it is good reading.

                              Some of it is correct from my point of view at least, such as Ethiopian Harrar having blueberry notes and benefiting from the roast being stopped at, or just before 2C.

                              Id love to see a cupping showdown among the more experienced and knowledgeable roasters here. Id pay good money for that.

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