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    Hey guys I was looking at getting one of those new Nespresso capsule machines but I heard that the only thing good about them was the George Clooney commercial. Any suggestions as to which one makes the best coffee???

  • #2
    Re: Coffee Capsule machines

    Jane welcome to Coffee Snobs.

    Pod machines are almost sacrilege here so I dont think you would get many or any recommendations.

    Stick around and read a few posts, check out the awesome machines and learn a bit more about coffee.

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    • #3
      Re: Coffee Capsule machines

      Hi Jane,

      We recently got a Delonghi Citiz & Milk at work for my small department of 8 people. Its a Nespresso pod system and its not real coffee but its better than instant, and heaps better than the undrinkable "espresso" available from the Coffee Cart at work. It works for us because it a no-brainer to use and creates no mess at all.

      I would not recommend it for personal use at home though, unless you arent in to good coffee. The beverage it produces is rather bland and boring, compared to what you could be pulling yourself on just about any other type of machine. I agree with the above advice - do some reading on CS and dont rush into Nespressos Corporate clutches just yet.

      Cheers,

      What...

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      • #4
        Re: Coffee Capsule machines

        Thanks for the advice I have done a bit of research and the Map Coffee Bella machine looks cool and I really lyk their coffee. There are a few Cafes near uni I always go to. Has anyone tried one before??

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        • #5
          Re: Coffee Capsule machines

          Welcome to CS Jane.

          someone once gave me one of the best pieces of advice ever in answer to my questions and that was "....you try...".

          Not being facetious. If you like it, buy it, try it, and see how you..."like it". If youve poured over the countless posts in this site and still want to give it a go, try it!

          Expect to be able to use only the type of pod it is designed to operate with, which means you are stuck with whatever coffee that is, and the price it is. The market is such that you buy a machine for next to nothing, then they get ya when you have to buy their pods. Its just the way it is. But if you like it and accept that, no worries!

          Hope that helps,
          Attilio
          very first Cs site sponsor.

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          • #6
            Re: Coffee Capsule machines

            Jane,

            Welcome to the site.

            As mentioned, most people here are probably going to try and steer you away from the pod style machines. I certainly would never contemplate one.

            HOWEVER - If you wish to proceed down that path, then you need to go in with eyes open.

            Be aware of the type of coffee it will produce and most importantly, look at how much these capsules will cost you moving forward and how available they are.

            My mother-in-law just got one of these things and I was doing some research on the cost of the capsules.

            It looks like once her initial box of mix and match capsules is done, shell be up for around a minimum of $40 for 50 capsules (on that auction site - no idea how much the big N charges). Thats 80 cents a capsule. Thats a LOT per coffee!

            From my perspective, I estimate the total cost of a roasted kilo for me (beans, energy, effort, bags) to cost about $15-$20 for most beans.

            Using the higher $20 figure and a nominal 10g per single shot, it means mine cost around 20cents a shot. Even if you convert them to doubles, Im still at half the price. And as immodest as it sounds, my coffee is WAY better.

            So, do the research and go in with your eyes wide open. If you still decide it is right for you, then so be it, but I think you would do far better to look at a different machine and a decent grinder.

            Brett.

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            • #7
              Re: Coffee Capsule machines

              Great post Brett..... [smiley=tekst-toppie.gif]

              Mal.

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              • #8
                Re: Coffee Capsule machines

                Originally posted by 6E697C6A67715739313131080 link=1310606762/5#5 date=1310620860
                Using the higher $20 figure and a nominal 10g per single shot, it means mine cost around 20cents a shot. Even if you convert them to doubles, Im still at half the price. And as immodest as it sounds, my coffee is WAY better
                Your costings appear not to include the sunken costs of your equipment. Youre not a government economist are you? ;D

                If my equipment lasts 10 years with no failures then each shot costs around 50c before adding coffee and 2 hours of electricty (800 coffees a year for 10 years using $4k eqpt). Nespresso is perfectly cost effective when looked at like that.

                Now the taste argument I can go with...

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                • #9
                  Re: Coffee Capsule machines

                  Not talking about the machine - talking about the cost of coffee to supply the machine.

                  Youre not an opposition spin doctor are you?

                  My roasting machinery consists of a stainless steel mesh drum purchased for ~$250, an $11 fan and a $30 battery charger all purchased over 5 years ago. Plus other components that were free. I dont really think I need to factor too much of that into my costs.

                  Nespresso is in no way perfectly cost effective.
                  When you can buy 100 capsules for under $40, then it is in the ballpark.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Coffee Capsule machines

                    $350 buck machine, no mess, consistant results, dollar a cup thereafter. We have one at work and the punters love it.

                    Ill stick to my home roasts with a french press thank you very much for work, but the Nespresso is a step up from instant and as good as it will ever get for thousands of people - Just not us

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                    • #11
                      Re: Coffee Capsule machines

                      Originally posted by 416A656E3B3A0B0 link=1310606762/3#3 date=1310619982
                      Thanks for the advice I have done a bit of research and the Map Coffee Bella machine looks cool and I really lyk their coffee. There are a few Cafes near uni I always go to. Has anyone tried one before??
                      Ive seen those in Harvey Norman.  Theyre a bit cheaper than a Nespresso, but dont come with a milk "frother" so if you want one, add on another $80+ for that.  I think the next model up of Map machines has a steam wand. 

                      They have bigger capsules than Nespresso, which might help the flavour.  Nespresso standard shot is 40ml from a 5.5g capsule.  well outside the usual 25-30ml from 7-9g of ground coffee.  Still the taste from capsules is ok if youre not too fussy.  People in our office where I used to work preferred the Nespresso over the $2k superauto Saeco we had before that.  However neither of those comes anywhere near the taste of a coffee you make yourself from fresh beans.

                      The main argument in favour of capsule machines is that its the easiest possible way to make a coffee.  People rave about how quick they are, but the truth is that unless youre comparing it to a very low-end manual machine*, you can make a coffee almost as quickly on a manual machine, especially if you make 2 at a time (cant do that with capsules).   A manual machine will give you vastly better coffee too.  Dont buy into the stories that you have to be a trained barista to make a decent coffee manually either - its not hard at all and theres plenty of support available here on the forum.  People talk about Nespresso being consistent, but in my experience, the shots can range in time from 10seconds to 25 seconds, which doesnt sound like good consistency to me. 

                      As for cost, at one point I did some sums and worked out that the cost of a 200ml Nespresso coffee was 83c (68c capsule, 15c milk) compared to 55c for a coffee on my machine (making 2 at a time, $40/kg for beans, and allowing for some wastage).  so a 30c per cup difference could add up quickly if its used a lot.  If budget matters, it could be worth adding up the number of drinks youd have per day, calculate over a few years, and youd see how much more you could spend on a good manual machine before it became more expensive than Nespresso (or Map).

                      Geoff

                      *by manual, I mean semi-auto as in a typical home espresso machine.  not referring to true manual machines.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Coffee Capsule machines

                        I have a nespresso machine.

                        it is unloved since i have a secondhand machine that take fresh ground coffee.

                        they are easy simple and brainless

                        how long will a nespresso machine last??

                        probably not ten years if you use it most days

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