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  • #16
    Re: A scary coffee story

    Originally posted by 767473737C707B702621150 link=1334384898/12#12 date=1334549717
    If anyone has any info on this type of fridge and storage
    I know of many different establishments from bakeries, patisseries to wholesalers that start with a simple system at first, then expand from that starting point.
    Well insulated rooms with an air-conditioner work well for storage of goods at 18-20degrees. It can be a simple 3x3m room to keep chocolate and other goods at 20degrees, right through to specially controlled fridges. I have found air-conditioners can be used efficiently to maintain temperature and humidity. Bear in mind most of these establishments will turn the stock over quickly, say every month, so exposure to extremes of heat, sunlight and humidity is more damaging than trying to maintain a perfect environment.

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    • #17
      Re: A scary coffee story

      Originally posted by 4D687F606D31090 link=1334384898/6#6 date=1334466641
      adland wrote on Apr 15th, 2012 at 7:52am:
      i have tried numerous coffee shops on the gold coast and disagree that Zarraffas cofee is at best average. The Zarraffas coffee that i have  tried as late as yesterday i would say is well above average and the shop was tested at the time as the cars in the drive through were backed up and the shop was full inside and also their beans are very good a bit dear but good tasting and fresh.


      I agree, there are two zarrafas that I visit when Im in the area, and have been impressed almost every time. Its the only chain store Ill frequent.

      I am forced by my teenagers to visit Zarraffas coffee. Others may find their products acceptable, but I stand behind my rating. I have had an insight into their operations as well.
      I know what I like in a coffee and will recommend establishments that provide an exceptional cup. Sadly this is not the case here. To be honest there are very few establishments on the Gold Coast that rank highly. This is a view shared by people in the industry who know a thing or two, and have a defined palate.
      To have their coffee described as average is actually a compliment. To describe it as anything better is an insult to the multitude of establishments around Australia that provide exceptional coffee, day in day out.

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      • #18
        Re: A scary coffee story

        Originally posted by 4F4A4447424F404A2E0 link=1334384898/5#5 date=1334440369
        i have tried numerous coffee shops on the gold coast and disagree that Zarraffas cofee is at best average.

        Average is being extremely generous to Zarraffas that Ive tried. They specialise in making sugary drinks wih a multitude of artificial crap in them. They are just another chain that specialise in mediocrity. Another triumph of marketing over substance.

        The number of bad franchises in Brisbane makes me weep!

        (excuse the melodrama)

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        • #19
          Re: A scary coffee story

          Each to their own opinion and taste preference but i also stand by my experience of Zarrafas at Nerang Gold Coast. In my work i did a lot of travelling all over the place and found it hard to find a good coffee and what i have tried at this store is above average. A friend of mine is a experienced barista at a leading coffee chain and when we have a coffee he always says to go to Zarrafas at Nerang he also buys his beans for home as well from Zarrafas.

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          • #20
            Re: A scary coffee story

            Originally posted by 595C52515459565C380 link=1334384898/18#18 date=1334696629
            Each to their own opinion and taste preference
            Exactly, that is why I have been polite and diplomatic. DSKi was melodramatic, but nevertheless, very accurate.

            Originally posted by 595C52515459565C380 link=1334384898/18#18 date=1334696629
            In my work i did a lot of travelling all over the place
            I do a lot of traveling, not just on the Gold Coast, but throughout QLD and Australia. Yes, it is hard to find good coffee, and I have shared many a cup with clients that was below par. I will not offend a client by saying their cherished coffee place serves rubbish. The Gold Coast has little to offer in the way of fine food, it is all glitz and glamour (there are a couple of exceptions). I have lived here for three years, and in "COMPARISON" to what is readily available in Melbourne, Sydney and Adelaide; it is a murky backwater. Before anyone jumps up to defend this, please note this a view shared by many of my friends, family and colleagues; all who travel extensively, and APPRECIATE fine food.

            Originally posted by 595C52515459565C380 link=1334384898/18#18 date=1334696629
            A friend of mine is a experienced barista at a leading coffee chain and when we have a coffee he always says to go to Zarrafas at Nerang he also buys his beans for home as well from Zarrafas.
            I do not need such a friend to recognize good coffee, and I do not find this sort of credential to be a credible reference point. If your friend was a state or national champion (not in coffee chain competitions), then it might be a valid point. Having tasted their product in a number of stores, including the one mentioned, I would not buy, nor recommend the product to a coffee connoisseur. As a business, they do have their merits, and are a better proposition than many others.

            As a side note, it is easy to see if a place is above average when it comes to coffee. Judge them by the type of milk they use. Many good coffee establishments go out of their way to source  milk from boutique dairies.
            As an example, when in Adelaide, a sure sign of good coffee is the presence of "Tweedvale" milk in the fridge.

            A coffee chain is simply that, a chain of stores serving identical beverages from identical products. Some do make average coffee that is totally acceptable from an industry point of view. Please do not elevate their status, especially stores whose sales are mainly based on syrup drinks.

            Many of the site sponsors serve coffee that can be classed as very good to exceptional. Zarraffas do not, and should not have their virtues extolled.

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            • #21
              Re: A scary coffee story

              This is a forum for everyones opinion the comment i made is my opinion simple as that, i made the comment about the baristas opinion was made in reference to a previous post re industry opinion on zarrafas and that is his honest opinion.

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              • #22
                Re: A scary coffee story

                Nobody should get too upset because they had a good coffee from Zaraffas outlet at Muckadilla and someone else had a crook one from the outlet at Wackeroo. In fact I wouldnt even be surprised if the bloke in front of me in the queue had a bad coffee and mine was fine. You get that variation from store to store and on occasion, even coffee to coffee - and thats without even thinking about individual coffee preferences. Its a bit like restaurants, isnt it - the chef changes and it goes from good to bad overnight.

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