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  • trentski
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    Any excess I steam I drink so no wastage.

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  • tashie
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    This is an old thread but I have used jug 2 (with angled sides) lately for my double shot flat white with good results. On reflection, it's sort of similar to a Motta jug.

    There is a much smaller margin of error obviously but I don't like wasting milk out of respect for the animal that it comes from.

    There don't seem to be many 150ml traditional shaped jugs in Australia, but it appears they are pretty cheap on AliExpress if you're patient.

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  • Rocky
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    Hi David. We must be long lost brudders. I have a Diadema Perfetta and my usual tipple is a Piccolo Latte plus a Macchiato. Admittedly I usually also make a small Cappuccino for my Son at the same time. When it's only me, I use my 300ml jug and just resign myself to wasting a small amount of milk because I find it so easy to steam in this sized jug whereas smaller jugs are more difficult to handle (what are we discussing here?)
    Because Perfettas steam like a steam locomotive, a jug that is too small with too little milk tends to end up over everything.
    I could see a 200ml jug being OK with practice, however.
    Good Luck.

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  • prloring
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    Sorry all, can't seem to upload pics from my phone. Will post tomoro.

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  • prloring
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    My sister in law found this at a Vinnies, thought it was 'cute' but didn't actually know what to use it for, I nabbe it when she move house.
    It holds about 190ml to the brim (pic shows size compared with my S26) and was quite challenging to use, especially after increasing my steam capacity (drilled out one of the steam tip holes, a latte worth of milk in 8 sec.)
    It really is about practice, I make sure I give the steam wand a really good purge before I start, I guess that gives the dryer steam, but then don't have the steam fully open when I texture te milk. If I get it wrong the milk swirls right out the jug and goes everywhere!
    Now days I can do enough milk for an espresso cup bubbachino for the little one. The spout isn't good enough for any kind of art on the piccolos or mac's though, oh well.

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  • David8
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    Alright. So these are the sort of jugs I've seen. From memory 'jug1' or the jug with straight sides had two volumes (at least at the shop I went to) 140mL and 300mL. But it's quite short, so I'm worried that the whirlpool will force milk out of the top. 'jug2' (with angled sides) only came in 300mL (? i think) - although another website has a 140mL in this shape as well. In my opinion jug2 seems like a better shape, what do others think?
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  • Barry_Duncan
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    I use a small stainless steel Turkish coffee pot or briki to steam small amounts of milk.

    I didn’t like the Turkish coffee it makes but it works well to steam a small dose.

    It is much bigger than the Javajug.

    Barry
    Last edited by Barry_Duncan; 10 August 2012, 11:23 AM.

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  • blend52
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    Originally posted by GregWormald View Post
    The main problem will not be the jug (although a small diameter base helps) but the steaming power of the machine.

    By reducing the size of the steam holes on my commercial Izzo I am easily able to get good micro foam of 50 ml or so.

    The steam holes are readily reduced by taking off the tip, winding a small amount of copper wire through the holes, tighten with a pair of pliers, and then replace the tip.

    Greg
    Exactly my solution on my Isomac since i mostly do piccolo's.
    Reduced to single hole tip works nicely.

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  • GregWormald
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    The main problem will not be the jug (although a small diameter base helps) but the steaming power of the machine.

    By reducing the size of the steam holes on my commercial Izzo I am easily able to get good micro foam of 50 ml or so.

    The steam holes are readily reduced by taking off the tip, winding a small amount of copper wire through the holes, tighten with a pair of pliers, and then replace the tip.

    Greg

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  • Seeya_Latte
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    For my mac's & piccolo lattes, I generally use a half filled 300ml InCasa cheapy.

    I have a no name brand 150ml which usually gets the better of me (I also doubt it was specifically designed for milk frothing but anyway...)

    Because things happen a hell of a lot faster, I find for my skill level, it's more miss than hit. 150 doesn't allow me a lot of time to compensate and make adjustments mid stream (which I can do with the bigger jugs). I reckon 6 out of 10 attempts I've either successfully over heated or didn't quite get the texture right. Fun to hone my skills yes, but as a go to jug especially if making macs for others, I always go to the smallest jug I know I can deliver consistent results with....and for me it is the 300.

    If I was using the 300ml 4 or 5 times a day and using only 20mls each time, then yes I would consider this a bit of a waste but sinking a bit more milk every now and then is fine with me. But luckily for me I don't have a lot to sink because more times than not, when I do macs and piccolo lattes, I'm making two of them at a time.

    Seeya

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  • Roz
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    tiny jugs are difficult to master, I think I would require more practice with mine even with slowing the steam on the Breville the milk comes to temp very fast.

    It's sitting next to my 300ml jug which gets most of the use for single coffees
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  • TC
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    Nice one Java...

    ....and I thought the 100ml jug I use for minimal milk was small!

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  • Javaphile
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    Originally posted by blend52 View Post
    I think you will need a smaller steam tip also ! ....
    ......just to fit in that jug !
    Nah. The Cimbali steam tip fits just fine!


    Java " " phile
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  • blend52
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    I think you will need a smaller steam tip also ! ....
    ......just to fit in that jug !

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  • Javaphile
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    Hhhhmmmmm......Maybe this jug would be small enough for ya. Yes it's stainless steel, and yes that's a 1.5oz shot glass next to it for comparison.


    Java "Small enough?" phile
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