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Hmm ? .. are you suggesting there may be different grades of Civet intestines ? .. "Royal civets" , "Vegan civets" , and maybe cheaper. "Bogan civets"...?Originally posted by Rocky View PostAre you sure it was the real thing? It might have been something processed through an inferior digestive tract.
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Are you sure it was the real thing? It might have been something processed through an inferior digestive tract.
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I had Kopi Luwak in Bali recently and it left me seriously underwhelmed ...
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Where's the fun in that?
"What are we drinking? - Lady Gaga Beans! - Wow!!!"
Vs
"What are we drinking? - Simulated Stomach Acid Beans! - Yuk!!"
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Can't they replicate the process in a tank, without involving animals in the process? If it's the stomach acid that breaks down the protein in coffee (as mentioned in the link in the original post), then why not just soak the beans in a tank of hydrochloric acid (as stomach acid is hydrochloric acid)?
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Well... I did ask and this is the answer...I'll ask the owners of Elephant Hills if the elephants there ever eat coffee off the trees.
Elephants don’t eat coffee beans by choice (at least not in our area). They walk through the coffee and tea plantation in the area and have never been interested in eating the coffee/tea bushes or have not known to raid the pulping/drying yard during harvesting (when we have tonnes of cherries in open tanks). In our estates they come for the Jack fruits (when in season) and also like Bamboo. If at all they had a liking for coffee bush/cherries there will not be much left for roasters ……
The wild civets and moneys are known to eat ripe cherries in our estate and luckily they don’t have a big appetite.
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seriously these kopi and elephant coffees will never compare to a Panama Geisha in my opinion
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I think I will definitely ...errr...pass on that, no matter how exulted the source of the "kopi manusia" (man coffee) is.Originally posted by Rocky View Postno excess is too gross - I give you: J Lo coffee, Justin Bieber coffee, Britney Spears coffee...you choose.
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Seeya Latte is probably not as far away from a future trend as they think. In an affluent (decadent) Western world where no excess is too gross - I give you:
J Lo coffee, Justin Bieber coffee, Britney Spears coffee...you choose.
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Don’t you love those honeymooners looking away from the camera so as to hold back their laughter before describing the taste as ‘yes…Interesting’
What about those poor people sifting through piles of it
I know what too much coffee does to me….imagine how much fun it would be for the elephant handlers …. ‘wired’ 4 tonne elephants are soo cute aren’t they as they go on a rampage flattening the nearest village !
Only a matter of time before there’s homo-sapien coffee
you’ve been warned!
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"The Thailand Elephant coffee is just another gimic that Black Ivory Coffee is cashing in on and if there is a market for it it will encourage caged force fed elephants (similar to how the Luwak is treated now)."
Quote from above post from Andy
Perhaps you could also ask them about the exhaustive research they've done about how good, or
at best, harmless it is to feed commercial quantities of cherries to elephants.
If elephants are fermenting cherries in their gut, how much caffeine are they extracting from the quantities fed to them?
Although present in much less quantity than the seed, did anyone ask the elephants if they wanted to risk their long term health for profit
derived from a gimic? Oh, what's that? We don't have to ask 'cause elephants can't speak...............
Another sad case of the exploitation and plunder of the good, the beautiful and the innocent.
And the marketing tries to trick consumers into thinking it does something 'special' to the coffee.........
the description given in the article is the same as many coffees that are harvested and processed in perfectly normal ways.
More than a few offerings in beanbay over the years immediately come to mind.
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I guess that's just as true for anything that you "mix in their food" to trick them into eating it. If Elephants liked coffee enough to eat it then they could just leave a pile of coffee cherry on the ground.Originally posted by Gera View Postone has to wonder how good it is for the Elephant to eat that much coffee?
The Thailand Elephant coffee is just another gimic that Black Ivory Coffee is cashing in on and if there is a market for it it will encourage caged force fed elephants (similar to how the Luwak is treated now).
I suggest trying a blend of Elephant Hills and Chaing Mai Thai in BeanBay instead

I'll ask the owners of Elephant Hills if the elephants there ever eat coffee off the trees.
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