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  • Struggling to get a crema

    Hi All,

    My current setup is a Gaggia Cubika, and a Delonghi KG100.

    Im currently using a Mockalux (spelling) blend and i have a bag of VIttoria Cinque Stella which i havent used yet.

    My problem is i cant for the life of me get a crema with this machine. Does anybody have any experience with this machine and can recommend a particular type of bean? Or are there any quirks for this machine (cubika)

  • #2
    Re: Struggling to get a crema

    Are they supermarket beans? Could be that theyre stale?

    Try getting hold of some that you know have been roasted in the last week...

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    • #3
      Re: Struggling to get a crema

      its stale. Check out a local roaster or buy on line. Heaps of guys out there doing great work.
      What color is the espresso? is it a dark black or brown extraction?

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      • #4
        Re: Struggling to get a crema

        the espresso comes out pitch black. Ive been fiddling with the grind. Ive read that it should take about 25 seconds to extract, but after about 15 seconds ive already got a third of a cup.

        I thought the coffee was relatively fresh but i can keep looking for new suppliers. Any suggestions for melbourne?

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        • #5
          Re: Struggling to get a crema

          nicholasm,

          Welcome to CoffeeSnobs.

          Your biggest problem is your grinder....(then worry whether your beans are fresh enough)

          A KG100 will really only grind coffee fine enough for machines with pressurised baskets.... Your minimum grind is too coarse to get the required 60ml pour in about 25 seconds....

          Ive had a KG100, there is a mod on the internet (look up Solis 166 - same machine) it works - but the burrs shake so much that you get huge variation in grind size..... result - lousy espresso

          Basically I retired mine and got a better grinder - and the machine then worked really well. Use the KG100 for plunger coffee (grinds that size no problem) but give up on it for espresso (unless you want to use pressurised baskets - YUK!!)

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          • #6
            Re: Struggling to get a crema

            what did you upgrade to from the KG100?

            I actually upgraded from a spice grinder 49$ to the KG100 169$, what am i looking at for a better model?

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            • #7
              Re: Struggling to get a crema

              nicholasm,

              I upgraded to the La Cimbali Jnr (picked up a good one second hand for a reasonable price)....

              You could buy a Sunbeam EM0480 / EM0450 - but there have been reliability issues with these.

              The grinder I would recommend is an Iberital Challange..... excellent value for money espresso grinder - available from several of the site sponsors.

              A good grinder is essential for good espresso (more important than the coffee machine)

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              • #8
                Re: Struggling to get a crema

                Depending on your budget you have a few options.

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                • #9
                  Re: Struggling to get a crema

                  If you cannot afford three hundred dollars, try something like this brass turkish hand burr-grinder. These are quite reasonable in price - between 60 -90 dollars depending on where you go. I am sure the site sponsors can get you one if you ask.


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                  • #10
                    Re: Struggling to get a crema

                    and do you think the turkish grinder will do the trick? If so im tempted to sell the KG100 on ebay.

                    Can i adjust the grind size of the manual turkish grinder?

                    many thanks

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                    • #11
                      Re: Struggling to get a crema

                      Before I got my MDF I was using the turkish grinder. I had it set for the espresso machine only as it can be adjusted but not by a huge amount, perfect for the cubika though (I have a Classic). Mostly it will come to you and you wont really need to adjust it by much.

                      If you are grinding for anything else that needs a coarser grind like a mocha pot ot plunger you will be better off using the other grinder.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Struggling to get a crema

                        Correct me if Im wrong..but isnt turkish grind extremely extremely fine? Almost powder like...unlike espresso grind which is salt and pepper like

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                        • #13
                          Re: Struggling to get a crema

                          No, not with these grinders, you can adjust them to a bit coarser grind suitable for the espresso machine.

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                          • #14
                            Re: Struggling to get a crema

                            If its really really black the coffee is stale. No gas in the beans you will get a black extraction.
                            where in Melbourne do you live in? or where do you you work?

                            Drop me an email if you need help

                            ****************

                            AndyL

                            Andy, I wouldnt post up any personal details in a public forum.... You never know who might get hold of it and try to use it for less than honourable purposes. Play it safe and send personal details via PM......
                            Mal.

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