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  • Our Coffee Van nearly caught fire! :S

    Helloooo fellow Coffee indulgers!

    I'm new to this forum but I was scanning it to see what information there was on how vendors plug in their coffee van at home to charge their batteries! Because we obviously did it so wrong and here's why!...

    A mate and I just got an iLoad van decked out by a local Sydney manufacture and the van looks great. A few weeks or so ago we had plugged the van into his house using a 15amp plug, a 10amp plug and a cable connecting to two. After a few beers we hit the hay because we had an event to go to the next day. At about 1am I woke up smelling smoke or a weird smell. Went outside and we had shorted a wire or something and our power lead had melted! In the garage there is a 240v plug that the van was parked into. It has basically turned black (looked burnt)... Thank christ I woke up.

    I went into my mates room to wake him up and he told me that being an older house the circuit must be dodge.

    After this scary experience I did some research on a number of forums (including this one) and couldn't see much. Then I actually came across something on a caravan forum that looked like it would solve my problem. The link took me to this product...


    I ended up getting one and everything has been all good since using it.

    I wanted to make you guys aware of this as I want you all to continue roasting Coffee and not yourselves!!!!

    All the best and stay safe!

  • #2
    Nice infommercial


    • #3
      Originally posted by Vinitasse View Post
      Nice infommercial
      LOL Perhaps I should change jobs to selling the Ab-Swing-Pro! hahaha!


      • #4
        First of all, nIce effort on the death lead. The socket presumably cooked because you pulled up to 25A through a connection only rated for ten amps.

        As for the cool little device, I can't think of many 15A-wired devices that wouldn't routinely draw more than ten amps. What's the point?


        • #5
          15 amp plugs have the big earth pin for a reason. So you can't plug them into a 10amp socket. Most of the 15amp devices will trip a 10amp rcd. The first time it may take a few minutes to trip. The second a little less. As the rcd heats up, it will trip faster and faster.

          Of there is no rcd fitted to your power points, the resulting overload creates heat in the wiring, and melted wiring/fires.

          It would be better to have rcds (and probably have the house rewired) than using this band aid solution. Have a 15amp circuit wired in while you are at it.


          • #6
            ...and you can guarantee that any device that plugs into a 10 amp outlet and allows you to plug in a 15 amp device will NOT be approved for use in Australia, regardless of the amount of 'electrickery' contained inside it to prevent overloading....

            Such devices may exist, and people routinely make/use/sell adapters like that, but that doesn't make them safe or legal, and electricians aren't immune from that stupidity. When we were setting up at MICE, the company providing all the power supply to the individual stands had lots of very illegal and dodgy cabling that they had obviously assembled specially, and was even tested and tagged! Some examples were one of these:

            (32 amp 3 phase socket)

            .....with the switch removed and a second outlet fitted in its place, and the pair attached to a short length of cable to a 32A 3 phase plug. Instant double adapter, allowing a 32 amp circuit to be overloaded by drawing 64 amps. And they had whole crates full of these!