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  • fatboy_1999
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    Well, if addicted smokers are not allowed to smoke in the building, AND it is still not illegal to smoke, then I think the going out for a break is acceptable. It should not be carte blanche though. Any managers who are truly concerned about it will do something about formalising the number of breaks people have.

    However, I do think that smokers are like any other sub-group in society. Some try to be considerate, some are conciencious and some are just slack pri*ks.

    Slack pr*ck syndrome is by no means unique to smokers. I have worked with people who look great on paper, but a close look shows real issues.

    EG: One person I worked with a few years back was always in early, put in long hours, accrued flex time or similar. But when you looked closely, they were actually LESS productive than others. Person in question would get in at 7:30 each day. Eat breakfast at desk (using the milk supplied for tea and coffee), read paper and essentially do no work until around 09:00.
    10:00 - 20 minute coffee break with 3 others ("Ive been in since 7:30 you know!")...

    and so it went on. Accrued enough time for a day off every 2 weeks.

    I didnt really blame the person in question, I blamed the manager of the area. He either was clueless, careless or both.

    I think most managers just decide that trying to micro manage break times is not worth the grief.

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  • Thundergod
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    When I worked on a Help Desk we got a new 2IC who started getting narky on lunch breaks.
    Apparently some people were taking a few minutes more than their hour occasionally.

    He judged the time by when they logged off and on to their phones.

    To make a point, I tried logging off to the second.
    Day 1 - I missed by a second or two one way.
    Day 2 - I missed by a second or two the other way.
    Day 3 - Spot on; 1 hour exactly. So I made some smart ar**ed comment to him about not taking too long for lunch knowing full well hed check.

    He lightened up a bit about lunch breaks after that but I seem to remember at one stage he got funny too on toilet breaks.

    Some people are just a PITA and should not be in management.

    Originally posted by grendel link=1173613122/30#30 date=1173831411
    Tai Chi break anybody?
    Ive actually done that. Well karate anyway (same thing).
    Found an empty meeting room and run through a kata or two to release stress and clear the mind.
    Only takes a few minutes.
    Quicker than going out for a coffee.

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  • grendel
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    Tai Chi break anybody?

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  • JavaB
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    Cant resist jumping in..... in my role (pre retirement) as a senior manager (and a smoker)....

    ALL staff (smokers, coffee addicts, soapy addicts, "slackers" or just "normal" employees).... should take a break every 45 minutes...

    The adult attention span is just that .... 45 minutes after which productivity, creativity and the ability to concentrate drops appreciably. Add to that the fact that a significant percentage of people do screen based work, which, for OH&S reasons, requires a break to prevent eye strain and RSI.....

    So having a break is actually beneficial and recharges the batteries in all sorts of ways...... and that break doesnt have to be for a cigarette.....

    And most employees (except soapy addicts and "slackers") dont actually "switch off" during the break either still thinking about, even discussing, work related issues.

    Its just a pity more places of employment arent enlightened and that their bosses act more like "Scrooge"..... turning them into sweat shops! - especially today where people are spending more and more time at work....

    My 2 cents worth.

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  • marcstolk
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    At times (not everyday), Ill have a 20min coffee break... and "refuse" to feel bad about it. I see the same smokers at least 5 times a day head outside with there cancer sticks... no-one questions them...!! Apparently its there right to have a cancer stick when they do!

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  • marcstolk
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    Originally posted by Mal link=1173613122/15#23 date=1173765343
    Originally posted by marcstolk link=1173613122/15#20 date=1173745089
    I had a discussion with someone (a smoker) here at work and his comment blew me away. It was, "I have the right to smoke around non smokers and take their clean air away"... I was disgusted! This was in response to my comments "What gives you the right to take AWAY my clean fresh air?"
    You could probably make a case for personal assault against someone with that attitude, given the recent changes to relevant laws in some states,

    Mal.
    Yes, but I would have lost my job... nevertheless, his character was revealed and resultant fruit of it is evident today.

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  • Thundergod
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    But the productivity picks up once the caffeine hits their system, so it evens out.

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  • Wushoes
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    Yep....coffee runs are the 21sy century ciggie breaks slowing productivity says one radio advert

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  • Thundergod
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    I heard a story years ago about a girl that kept taking breaks from work every few hours of about 15 minutes at a time.
    Shed go for a walk or have a coffee or something like that.

    It soon came to the attention of management and she was asked to explain herself regarding the unauthorised absences.

    She pointed out that she was merely take the same amount of time as the smokers, who also were disappearing several times a day for some time.
    She said shed stop leaving her post if they did.
    What she didnt like was taking up their slack.

    Management backed down.

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  • Dimal
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    Originally posted by marcstolk link=1173613122/15#20 date=1173745089
    I had a discussion with someone (a smoker) here at work and his comment blew me away. It was, "I have the right to smoke around non smokers and take their clean air away"... I was disgusted! This was in response to my comments "What gives you the right to take AWAY my clean fresh air?"
    You could probably make a case for personal assault against someone with that attitude, given the recent changes to relevant laws in some states,

    Mal.

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  • Thundergod
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    I wonder if they declared their income to Centrelink?

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  • marcstolk
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    Originally posted by JavaB link=1173613122/15#16 date=1173678434
    But it is starting to be the next big "social" problem..... and then theres fast food, trans fats etc, etc.... :-/ :-/ :-/
    Starting? Alcohol already is a social problem.... Going to a New Years Eve in Sydney City is living proof - the behaviour is appauling! All because they are full of the stuff... What gets me is the Police will always say "Oh, the revellers were well behaved this year"... What planet are they on??...

    Dont get me wrong, I enjoy a quality Red but alcoholism - just plane stupid and irresponsible! Its almost as bad a Renta-Crowds demonstrating when Dick Chaney was in Sydney.... Revoke there dole I say!!! :-)... Ops... off topic... sorry ;-)

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  • marcstolk
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    Originally posted by Sparky link=1173613122/0#13 date=1173677519

    What I hate most about smoking is the effect it has on others. Its very invasive.
    100% agree!!!!

    I had a discussion with someone (a smoker) here at work and his comment blew me away. It was, "I have the right to smoke around non smokers and take their clean air away"... I was disgusted! This was in response to my comments "What gives you the right to take AWAY my clean fresh air?"

    Reality is, Smokers are a minority now... thank God...

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  • Thundergod
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    Originally posted by Wushoes link=1173613122/0#7 date=1173675754
    Ive been off and on for 3 years....I can quit if I want to.
    Obviously you can. Youve proved it again and again.  


    "You wont actually live longer if you dont drink coffee...it will just seem like it!"
    ~ Thundergod

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  • robusto
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    Originally posted by JavaB link=1173613122/0#11 date=1173677206
    God forbid one day someone finds out coffee is bad for us!! - you never know it could happen.....

    (
    You mean coffee is GOOD for you?  Whos been misleading me all this time.  Why, I even have to lie to my mother, telling her I have just one or two a day.  

    --Robusto

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