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When I got my machine I used Coles beans to learn to make coffee. I also used their Vittoria ones for those who thought Nescafé was a decent thing to drink. It took some learning but I was making decent coffee in short order. Admittedly nothing as good as what I get from fresh local-roaster beans and the changes I have made to my system, but easily better than most cafés serve for $3.50 per cup.
If that's what you can afford, go for it. Probably don't buy the cheapest, but I had no issues drinking the stuff (tried a few different ones) at around $17/kg.
Yes, paying more will normally improve your cup but there are also some places charging $25 or more for a kg of beans that barely raise a crema even when you get everything right.
I don't roast my own (yet) so can't really talk about the costs there, but if it can be as cheap as STS says, that would be a great alternative.
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I'm sure that wasn't for no money though. I'll do jobs that are not related to my degree but I have to be paid for it.Originally posted by Barry O'Speedwagon View PostWell, I worked the graveyard shift at a rough service station immediately on obtaining my Bachelors degree.......wasn't beneath me.
You'd be surprised how much a variety of experiences can help you in later life...even if it seems less than desirable at the time.
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True, but it was for bugger all money. And I did other stuff for zippo (did the books for a couple of local charities / non-profits). The worst thing you can do is nothing (and I have no idea...you might be doing lots of other stuff). I'm not being a smart alec about this....there's very little downside to what Chris is suggesting.Originally posted by pamount View PostI'm sure that wasn't for no money though. I'll do jobs that are not related to my degree but I have to be paid for it.
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I have done plenty of work for no money in my time. I learned (lots) from each experience. Perhaps you might consider it giving a little back to those who contributed along the way. Doing something for others might make you more employable some day. It looks good on a CV.
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Then that's the choice you make. You don't have to do it, but if you don't have a paying job occupying your time it may be your best option if you want decent coffee.Originally posted by pamount View PostI'm sure that wasn't for no money though. I'll do jobs that are not related to my degree but I have to be paid for it.
It may also lead to employment, if that interests you.
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I don't know what the retail price of coffee beans is where you are, but here in NZ it's not hard to pay $50~60/kg for decidedly average beans with no known roast date.Originally posted by pamount View PostI'm sure that wasn't for no money though. I'll do jobs that are not related to my degree but I have to be paid for it.
I personally would consider a kg or so of beans for a couple of hours work to be a pretty good rate of pay straight out of uni (certainly more than you're likely to get as a starter in a job related to your degree), especially since that's tax-free and you are otherwise unemployed. Work a few more hours and swap the beans you can't use in a couple of weeks for something else you need.
One little thought - many of us here have worked for many years in our chosen profession, which is why we are able to afford the toys that bring us here - I personally am in my 42nd year of learning and adapting in my particular industry. I suspect I'm not the only one here who has a pretty good notion of exactly how valuable most shiny new bachelor's degrees are, and appealing to it as an excuse not to follow up a perfectly good self-help suggestion is unlikely to elicit a universally supportive response.
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Can I suggest some Coffeesnobs Beanbay beans? They are top quality and worth their weight in gold, and they arrive soon after hitting the ENTER key on your keyboard. They are cheaper still green, you can roast them so easily in a popcorn popper as suggested above, for next to nothing.
Roasted to perfection by Andy:-
CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Roasted Coffee - Ethiopian Harrar Longberry
Green and roast them yourself:-
CoffeeSnobs - BeanBay - Green Coffee - PNG Highland Naturals
Green PNG Highland Naturals, just about my favourite bean, @ $8 a kg you can't go wrong.
Drinking a double espresso per day for 110 days @ less than 20 cents a cup per bag of 2.5 Kg green beans.
How to popcorn popper roast your green beans
Air Popcorn Popper Method
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I suspect part of the reason this topic was even started is because these Coles beans are currently selling for $13 /kg.Originally posted by MikeS View PostI don't know what the retail price of coffee beans is where you are, but here in NZ it's not hard to pay $50~60/kg for decidedly average beans with no known roast date..
To some, that is a "worth a try" price !
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As i have one of these sm'kts within walking distance, i thought (in a moment of mis guided self sacrifice and community service !), i would conduct a crude "independent reality review" of these bargain beans.
However, despite inspecting all of the many kgs on the shelf, i concluded from the Best Before dates that none of them were less than 3 months past packing (roasting) date, so even by my somewhat tolerant taste standards, i decided they were not worth the effort of carrying back home to waste good water on. !
If any of them had been in the bag for less than 4 weeks , i would have carried through my potentially risky mission.
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The problem I have with working for free is it opens up the potential for abuse on the part of the employer. I don't want to be in a situation where I agree to work for one or two weeks for free only to have the expectation of working for free extended by the employer.Originally posted by MikeS View PostI suspect I'm not the only one here who has a pretty good notion of exactly how valuable most shiny new bachelor's degrees are, and appealing to it as an excuse not to follow up a perfectly good self-help suggestion is unlikely to elicit a universally supportive response.
Having said that I am seeing a careers counselor next week and I'll ask about ways to mitigate that risk. If the careers counselor says it's a good idea to work for free for a short time them I'll take note of that advice.
Please note I'm 50 and I have roughly 25 years of work experience behind me so it's not like I don't have any experience in any field of work.
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Yes. I did start this topic because I've seen it is being sold for that price. But I'm wary of buying coffee that might be too cheap, so maybe it isn't "worth a try".Originally posted by blend52 View PostI suspect part of the reason this topic was even started is because these Coles beans are currently selling for $13 /kg.
To some, that is a "worth a try" price !
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Are you kidding me? Whether you are working for free or for pay if an employer abuses you it's very easy to stop the abuse. Tell them to fuxk off and walk away.Originally posted by pamount View PostThe problem I have with working for free is it opens up the potential for abuse on the part of the employer. I don't want to be in a situation where I agree to work for one or two weeks for free only to have the expectation of working for free extended by the employer.
Java "ala Smokey Bear...Only you can prevent abuse!" phileToys! I must have new toys!!!
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I can see potential pressure and "abuse" of employees if they were young and inexperienced (I worked for $50 a day off loading truck tyres off containers back in my uni days) but once you are experienced enough then you should be able to managed your work situation enough to avoid such "abuse"... especially if you are getting paid peanuts (or coffee beans
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But going back to the original question, you probably can get away with the cheap coles beans if you are only have milk based drinks, taken with sugar... otherwise, it does taste aweful... you can only work with what you have...
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