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  • chokkidog
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    Have you gone out into the market and actually put your eyes and hands on any machines bigdaddy?

    Did you look at the link Chris put up in post #25 and Matt's endorsement in post #26?

    The Diadema, Vibiemme and Izzo are all top quality machines in build and performance.


    Originally posted by bigdaddy View Post
    Hi folks,

    I'm looking at the Ex(p)obar Minore 4 and someone suggested looking (at) the Quick Mill range.

    Avoid buying a machine on the say-so of someone, anyone can recommend a machine but no-one knows what's
    best for you. Everyone will champion the machine they own, and rightly so, if it's a good one.... but who determines that?

    To find a machine that's better than anyone's, in the same price bracket, is everyone's wish but what works for someone doesn't work for everyone
    so no-one knows which is really the best one.

    If anyone did some research and made a shortlist, then found someone who sells the machines and made a choice on personal experience
    then no-one would lose and everyone would win.

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  • Bishop
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    I'm same sort of situation, though I always stuck to manual machines, but it's time I upgraded from my Lelit single boiler, my budget is really only $1500 maybe, $2000 by end of year.

    Now the Breville has been around a little while, I think I'll go for it, the 920 update, and I love the black version, really it was gona be that or maybe a Oscar for me, hopefully I can find one around $1200, need to ditch my Sunbeam grinder as that is getting on my nerves, I'll fork out a little more for a smart grinder, then by end of year maybe buy a higher end grinder with the smart as a backup.

    If I'm honest, if I could push my budget to $2000ish right up for the machine, there is a couple of e61 machines in the low $2000 that look good (unless I'm wrong), but I won't swing that this time around, maybe in another 2-3 years for me, maybe.

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  • Journeyman
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    I don't have the breadth of experience to give advice on brands. Not sure why others haven't commented...

    Generally I'd look at getting the best grinder you can then work out what coffee you want to make, how many of them in what time frame and how often, then look for a machine that will do it. I don't think it's worth paying big bucks for a machine if you go light on the grinder.

    The advice for 2 espressos a day will be different to that for 6 capps and 4 lattés between 8AM and 9AM every day. You can live with delays waiting for a boiler to re-temp itself for one or two coffees but doing 6 at a time would drive you crazy in a week. (i.e. the 1st instance a single boiler will see you through, the 2nd you've want double boiler, HX or twin thermoblock) What coffees do you think you will be making for your 0.5kg per week?

    For grinders, TampIt has done a pretty thorough job evaluating the Mahlkonig Vario Rev 2 as a decent home use grinder - maybe PM him or search for his posts?

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  • bigdaddy
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    Hi folks,

    I've noticed no replies to my last 2 posts....Maybe people don't have time etc...I don't know if these questions are appropriate, if not let's know...Happy to learn.... Or if you haven't already pm'd me perhaps you could pm me and let me know about these two machines.

    My understanding so far is the Minore 4 is a very good machine...I'm not sure about the Quick Mill...

    I know I'd probably get ten thousand different answers but I'm happy to sift through them...I didn't think it was an issue, so if people would be kind enough to let me know their thoughts, hopefully by posting them so others can learn as well, but pm's are good...I'd appreciate that...

    Cheers.

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  • bigdaddy
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    Hi folks,

    Double post here....Mods please feel free to merge my last 2 posts if you think it's appropriate to do so.

    I'm looking at the Exobar Minore 4 and some one suggested looking the Quick Mill range...As I do not know much about the brand, I was wondering people's thought's on the Quick Mill range of machines?....Do they work well?...Parts availability, servicing, warranty backup and reliability?

    Cheers.

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  • bigdaddy
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    Hi folks,

    You guys are funny....I don't mind letting the topic ride (LIR) ....Eventually someone pulls it BOT sorry, in old school talk Back On Topic...re The Goon show etc....Those were the days...I remember my dad religiously tuning into ABC radio at 11.30 (I think) every Saturday morning Listening to it for 1/2hr....I digress...

    What's the Exobar Minore 4th generation like?...Even though it's a tad over what I suggested I would like to pay...I'd consider it if I could get one a a reasonable price and they were good...What's the machine like?....I know quite a while back Exobars were very good value for money machines as a rule.

    Cheers.

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  • DesigningByCoffee
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    I second the Diadema's - I looked pretty closely for build quality before getting my Reale - and they're right up there
    Matt

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  • TC
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    G'day bigdaddy,

    Back to the original topic, you will struggle to find better finish that that of Diadema.

    Our display model Diadema Junior Semi Auto (PUL) | Talk Coffee may be of interest. We ship to Adelaide all the time.

    Chris

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  • Dimal
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    Originally posted by Yelta View Post
    Crikey! this thread has drifted a touch off topic, Spike Milligan would have been delighted.
    As would Steve Irwin...

    Mal.

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  • Yelta
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    Crikey! this thread has drifted a touch off topic, Spike Milligan would have been delighted.

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  • Barry O'Speedwagon
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    Originally posted by chokkidog View Post
    Aaah you guys and your internet abbreviations ;-D WRT= 'with respect to'

    Well....re the above post #14: The question was posed on CoffeeSnobs so; ......expect a CoffeeSnobs answer.
    I reckon this one actually pre-dates the internet. If I recall correctly (sorry, IIRC) it is sometimes used in maths when discussing differential calculus problems (e.g. differentiate y wrt x etc.).

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  • chokkidog
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    Originally posted by Jonathon View Post
    Take a look at their website, it lists all their staff - they have almost 50 people working across 2 stores, not a small operation!
    Not surprising in the context of this enthusiasm: :-)

    Coffee in Seattle - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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  • Jonathon
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    Originally posted by Yelta View Post
    Yep, read TOK's post and wondered about WRT, now I know

    Re the statement "I bet they sell a squillion." reckon your right TOK, bearing in mind they have a market of a squillion potential customers.

    It reminds me of an old saying, a good idea in the US will make you a millionaire, a good idea in Oz will probably send you broke.

    Still reckon the girls are the funniest thing since Martin and Lewis.
    Take a look at their website, it lists all their staff - they have almost 50 people working across 2 stores, not a small operation!

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  • TC
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    Originally posted by TOK View Post
    Or for those that are old enough, Rowan and Martin?
    Not as funny as the Goon show, but there is synergy there

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  • TOK
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    Or for those that are old enough, Rowan and Martin?

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