25-30 sec pour - when to start counting????

[dcaffeine8d]

I always see everywhere that we aim for the 25-30 sec pour with 25-30 mL of water for the perfect shot.

My question stems from this fact.

1. Do I start counting when I turn on the Silvia brew switch?
2. Do I start counting when coffee starts dripping?

Addtl. question:

3. On a 25-30 sec pour, does the 25-30 mL (2 ounces) include the crema level or not?

Sorry for such newbie questions.

[Bart]

Re: 25-30 sec pour - when to start counting????

25 seconds from the time pour actually comences, ie actually starts coming out of the portafiller.
It may be a matter of personal preference, but I measure 25 mls excluding the crema.
There are no silly questions, only silly answers.

Cheers, Bart.