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12:00 noon or 12:00 midnight can neither be a.m. (ante meridiem) or p.m. (post meridiem) in the strict sense but common practice is 12:00 p.m. is for noon and 12:00 a.m. is for midnight and that can be confusing. I prefer military time.
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The 24 hour clock leaves no room for ambiguity.
Midnight = 00.00
12 noon = 12.00
The 24-hour clock is the convention of time keeping in which the day runs from midnight to midnight and is divided into 24 hours, indicated by the hours passed since midnight, from 0 to 23. This system is the most commonly used time notation in the world today,[1] and is used by international standard ISO 8601.[2] In the practice of medicine, the 24-hour clock is generally used in documentation of care as it prevents any ambiguity as to when events occurred in a patient's medical history.[3] It is popularly referred to as military time in the United States, Canada,[4] and a handful of other countries[1] where the 12-hour clock is still dominant.
24-hour clock - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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But not according to Greenwich Meantime..........as in post #52.
Any minute finishes at 00.00.00 and starts at 00.00.01 ( or a nano second past the 00.00.00 ) but we don't
record chronological time in anything smaller than a single second. .........so midnight would be 12.00.00 pm??
Not to argue, but this is how I arrange my day, ......so I don't miss appointments! ;-)
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Sorry but Trane was correct. Midnight = 12amOriginally posted by Talk_Coffee View PostNope. Us mere mortal roasters don't get to see that stuff. It's strictly reserved for best in show events. Also, said picking only occurs at night. That'd be 12pm-2am :P
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The shortage of available vestal virgins is a serious issue plaguing specialty coffee picking. An astute coffee professional will indeed pick up the difference if inferior harvesting techniques such as hands are used. Let's hope more vestal virgins are found soon.
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Just checking in to the thread, and I notice now you have all moved on from the extreme silliness of my original post and instead are dealing with important and serious issues
NOTE: this is a joke - please dont flame me
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With their mouths. Can't have the beans sullied by fingers.Originally posted by Trane View PostOr "picked by scantly clad vestal virgins on a full moon night between the hours of 12am and 2 am "

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heh....not enough coffee yesterday!
Regardless, it's damn hard to find picking staff!
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Hence the reasons why I purposely did NOT use the words noon or midnight... substituting the words Lunchtime and The Witching Hour.
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hmmmmmm..... I thought am & pm started at 12.00.01.............. I like this definition. ;-D
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HOME > INFO > NOON
A.M. and P.M.
What is Noon and Midnight?
A.M. and P.M. start immediately after Midnight and Noon (Midday) respectively.
This means that 00:00 A.M. or 00:00 P.M. (or 12:00 A.M. and 12:00 P.M.) have no meaning.
Every day starts precisely at midnight and A.M. starts immediately after that point in time e.g. 00:00:01 A.M. (see also leap seconds)
To avoid confusion timetables, when scheduling around midnight, prefer to use either 23:59 or 00:01 to avoid confusion as to which day is being referred to.
It is after Noon that P.M. starts e.g. 00:00:01 PM (12:00:01)
A.M. abbreviation ante meridiem
Main Entry: an·te me·ri·di·em
Pronunciation:
"an-ti-m&-'ri-dE-&m, -dE-"em
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin
Date: 1563
Meaning: being before noon
Abbreviation a.m.
P.M. abbreviation post meridiem
Main Entry: post me·ri·di·em
Pronunciation:
-m&-'ri-dE-&m, -"em
Function: adjective
Etymology: Latin
Date: 1647
Meaning: being after noon
Abbreviation p.m.
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Nope. Us mere mortal roasters don't get to see that stuff. It's strictly reserved for best in show events. Also, said picking only occurs at night. That'd be 12pm-2am :POriginally posted by Trane View PostOr "picked by scantly clad vestal virgins on a full moon night between the hours of 12am and 2 am "
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