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It will help... if you have really skinny and weak arms, otherwise it's more about the feel and balance
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The tamper that came with my SB EM7000 weighs 132 grams. Should I look for a heavier tamper and does that assist with tamping?
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Sorry. See, I thought my photography was that good that you'd see th logo!
it's a Pullman Barista. I was going to economise and get a Nexus, which I personally prefer the appearance of, but I went for the ability to adjust the height, which the Barista gives via a set of spacing rings.
i am, after all, shortblackman, and I require a shorthandletamper.
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Pardon my cynicism brownbean, first post promoting a brand name, wouldn't have an interest in the product would you?Originally posted by thebrownbean View PostI was wondering the same as well, but there are affordable tampers which are of good quality, try Rattleware.
Why not give us a little information about yourself here http://coffeesnobs.com.au/off-topic/...o-easy-me.html
Welcome to Coffee Snobs by the way.
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I hope you enjoy my sideways & upside down photography. It goes on the right way up when I'm typing , then , when I finish, whoosh! 'round they go.
Sorry.
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A timely thread for me.
This treasure arrived for me this morning. Made to measure.
i have to say that aside from working beautifully, the service has been excellent. All questions answered promptly, we'll packaged end product, and constant updates as to the progress of the order ( not that it took that long to come anyway).
i bought this tamper having used a Pullman before, and I was convinced that it was worth the expense.
the results in the cup are instant and dramatic.
having said that, my machine is a La Pavoni, which comes with a notoriously bad factory tamper!
Having said that I know from experience that the Pullman is a cut above your average tamper anyway.
Cop the difference!
This one tries to show how small the placky one is in the basket.
What an outrage! The Pavoni is such a wonder, but if you get one, you're gunna need a 51mm tamper.
aside from all this, I have to say I've not really enjoyed using the convex base, but that's just my opinion.
I have this also for my Gaggia.
It's a Cafelat.
somewhat less expensive than the Pullman but works very well. Doesn't come in 51mm as noted above.
i think I can say I've got what I've paid for on both counts.
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I was wondering the same as well, but there are affordable tampers which are of good quality, try Rattleware.
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Originally posted by TampIt View PostRay's 1KG tamper? I hope it is a model number, not a weight.Don't think TampIt was referring to RB tampers...RayTCoffeePro
1Kg is a joke
An average for RB tampers are 1 pound not kg......
Sarcasm surely gets negated reception here..... HAHAHAH
Mal.
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430 stainless is magnetic and more susceptable to corrosion but still carry the name stainless steel. 304ss and the other 3 series including marine grade stainless are non-magnetic and cost more.
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I notice that Pergtamp is made of 431 SS - what would be the reasons for using such a diffcult to machine steel?Originally posted by TampIt View PostHi Barry
From mid '70's to date I have made a wide variety of tampers from all types of materials. All of them were tapered to fit a particular basket exactly. When I became richer I bought a few custom ones (some quite expensive) plus some "name brands" (e.g. my 2 RB's: one US and one Euro curved bases). Here are some thoughts for discussion.
Materials: as long as grounds do not cling and there is no static problem, it is fine. Food grade plastic (i.e. to EU standard) is fine & quite easy to work. Various woods can work well (I am a sucker for cedars, jarrah and wandoo: made tampers out of all of them in the early days). Aluminium should work in theory, however all the ones I encountered or made attracted coffee grounds. A good stainless can work really well (i.e. 316 or better), whilst every lower grade stainless attracts grounds to an extent (including my 2 RB's, 304 or less). Mind you, any 400+ stainless is a bitch to work... Optical glass worked really well (best of all?) until dropped one day: broke all three in one bad oops.
Balance and weight: I weighed all my easily accessible tampers. Varied from 150g (too light to be balanced) through to circa 300g (about right for my tastes: my 2 Pullman 316 barista tampers are around that weight, my RB's are too light for me at just under 250g), up to two of my 316 prototypes, the 7g VST single one is 397g (too heavy, still in daily use awaiting the "real replacement"), an old double one to fit a commercial La Cimbali basket is 510g (far too heavy, what was I thinking? Not in current use for obvious reasons. Broken wrist anyone?). Ray's 1KG tamper? I hope it is a model number, not a weight. The other issue is the fit of the handle: Pullman Barista handles rock: almost the same fit as 90% of the tampers I had made over the years. Your hands may differ...
Oddest tamper: when developing my 7g 316 prototype, a Smart water bottle just under 1/2 full was the closest I could get to an exact fit in the VST single (but without a taper...) and used it for a few months. I just exhumed it out of my shed: 297g! Attracted coffee grounds like a demon, however it tamped well.
Costs: Luckily for me I could get 316+ offcuts for free, however the single prototype is nearly $100 for the steel alone, without minor issues like machining to an exact fit. A couple of hundred for a 316 tamper base is actually quite cheap, especially if it has a complex taper. Time is money. Worth it? Your call.
Barry, go for the pickle jar lid mate, no reason why it won't work. FWIW, I often wondered whether a tamper raised at the edges with a central depression would be a good idea, perhaps you can tell us if that is what you end up with.
TampIt
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1Kg is a joke
An average for RB tampers are 1 pound not kg......
Sarcasm surely gets negated reception here..... HAHAHAH
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Hi BarryOriginally posted by Barry_Duncan View PostIn my previous post I originally put “mutating tamping” but soon changed it to “nutating tamping” as it should be. So much for auto spellin.
I did buy a Bogav tamper, made in Melbourne by a CoffeeSnob, especially for the Breville Dual Boiler. It is heavier than the tamper provided by Breville with a better handle and it is also made to fit in the magnetic holder on the machine. However the shiny edge is thinner so it encourages over dosing with coffee so I mainly use the metal Breville tamper, which is so much better than the flimsy plastic ones provided with so many coffee machines.
As a spare, I am looking for a pickle jar to fit a 58mm basket, just like Yelta’s.
In the past I have made a good tamper by cutting a section from a gum tree branch with the diameter to make a perfect fit. With care they will last a lifetime.
Barry
From mid '70's to date I have made a wide variety of tampers from all types of materials. All of them were tapered to fit a particular basket exactly. When I became richer I bought a few custom ones (some quite expensive) plus some "name brands" (e.g. my 2 RB's: one US and one Euro curved bases). Here are some thoughts for discussion.
Materials: as long as grounds do not cling and there is no static problem, it is fine. Food grade plastic (i.e. to EU standard) is fine & quite easy to work. Various woods can work well (I am a sucker for cedars, jarrah and wandoo: made tampers out of all of them in the early days). Aluminium should work in theory, however all the ones I encountered or made attracted coffee grounds. A good stainless can work really well (i.e. 316 or better), whilst every lower grade stainless attracts grounds to an extent (including my 2 RB's, 304 or less). Mind you, any 400+ stainless is a bitch to work... Optical glass worked really well (best of all?) until dropped one day: broke all three in one bad oops.
Balance and weight: I weighed all my easily accessible tampers. Varied from 150g (too light to be balanced) through to circa 300g (about right for my tastes: my 2 Pullman 316 barista tampers are around that weight, my RB's are too light for me at just under 250g), up to two of my 316 prototypes, the 7g VST single one is 397g (too heavy, still in daily use awaiting the "real replacement"), an old double one to fit a commercial La Cimbali basket is 510g (far too heavy, what was I thinking? Not in current use for obvious reasons. Broken wrist anyone?). Ray's 1KG tamper? I hope it is a model number, not a weight. The other issue is the fit of the handle: Pullman Barista handles rock: almost the same fit as 90% of the tampers I had made over the years. Your hands may differ...
Oddest tamper: when developing my 7g 316 prototype, a Smart water bottle just under 1/2 full was the closest I could get to an exact fit in the VST single (but without a taper...) and used it for a few months. I just exhumed it out of my shed: 297g! Attracted coffee grounds like a demon, however it tamped well.
Costs: Luckily for me I could get 316+ offcuts for free, however the single prototype is nearly $100 for the steel alone, without minor issues like machining to an exact fit. A couple of hundred for a 316 tamper base is actually quite cheap, especially if it has a complex taper. Time is money. Worth it? Your call.
Barry, go for the pickle jar lid mate, no reason why it won't work. FWIW, I often wondered whether a tamper raised at the edges with a central depression would be a good idea, perhaps you can tell us if that is what you end up with.
TampIt
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In my previous post I originally put “mutating tamping” but soon changed it to “nutating tamping” as it should be. So much for auto spellin.
I did buy a Bogav tamper, made in Melbourne by a CoffeeSnob, especially for the Breville Dual Boiler. It is heavier than the tamper provided by Breville with a better handle and it is also made to fit in the magnetic holder on the machine. However the shiny edge is thinner so it encourages over dosing with coffee so I mainly use the metal Breville tamper, which is so much better than the flimsy plastic ones provided with so many coffee machines.
As a spare, I am looking for a pickle jar to fit a 58mm basket, just like Yelta’s.
In the past I have made a good tamper by cutting a section from a gum tree branch with the diameter to make a perfect fit. With care they will last a lifetime.
BarryLast edited by Barry_Duncan; 22 September 2014, 11:01 AM.
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Terra they are pretty expensive but in some ways it's a pretty niche market and so mass producing tampers isn't so much needed/possible so that makes their price a premium. But like anything you do you can get cheap or premium. There are cheap cordless drills that do the job, and expensive ones- they all drill. It can be honest a bit snobby (must confess I have a Reg Barber), but I do like my over priced tamper. But I'm a fan of the Cafelat ones Andy sells here and good price too.
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