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I abstain or have a cup of leaf Darjeeling. I heard... that if you inadvertantly catch a carp or a blowfish whilst fishing, you can insert a well seasoned gumtree twig through them and roast them slow for 6 hours over a naked charcoal flame... throw the fish away gnaw on the twig - never tried it though ;-)
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Some roasters do actually put a "production" or a "packed" date on their products (EG: Gloria Jeans),Originally posted by fatboy_1999 View PostNot quite. A best before is not like a use by. They are much looser in their application. Within certain limits, it is up to each business to put their own 'range' on their product. So it might mean they were roasted 14 months ago and have a 2 month route to market etc.
Of course, if you know the roasted date or you know they use a 12 month period for the best before calculation, that's great.
If you don't know either of those, then you are still just guessing.
For others, if you never see a date greater than say 12 months forward, it's pretty obvious they are using a 12 month BEst Before date ..(EG : Harris and Vittoria both are local roasters, and no matter how hard or often you look, you never see a pack with a date greater than 51 weeks ahead !)
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My opinion is that you need to upgrade your reading material. This is pretty much the most shockingly horrible thing I have ever read on this forum. No offense meant but YUCK x 1,000,000 !!!Originally posted by cjphawk View PostI read somewhere to give beans a little quick steam and dry to freshen, and on rare occassions, tried about 60 seconds in a rice cooker steamer with about 2 teaspoons of smokey flavoured bourbon in 100mls of water.. Quick in and out of the steam, and then drop the beans in a slow oven for 10 minutes to sweat out a tad.
As an emergency, it works for me, but would be interested in others opinion.
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For my emergency beans, I tend to go to Woolies. They used to have a little known brand that was good but no longer have it. Their own brand is ok but I can only get good extraction for four or so days. I some times get the green Harris beans. Not too bad. The Coles range in the cardboard packs are rubbish.
I've gotten beans from high volume cafes before and got poor results. I've even had poor results from roasted to order. I told them about the tasteless beans and they sent a replacement bag. That was better but contained a small stone that would of ruined my grinder.Last edited by BeanMonkey; 28 October 2014, 02:50 PM.
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Opinion? EWWWW.Originally posted by cjphawk View PostI read somewhere to give beans a little quick steam and dry to freshen...
...but would be interested in others opinion.
If you' be need'n to stea'm yourer beens they mite bee betterer use'd as compost on the gard'n!
'Andy.
(having used my weekly apostrophe quota in one post, I will now type "your" for the next week)
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I read somewhere to give beans a little quick steam and dry to freshen, and on rare occassions, tried about 60 seconds in a rice cooker steamer with about 2 teaspoons of smokey flavoured bourbon in 100mls of water.. Quick in and out of the steam, and then drop the beans in a slow oven for 10 minutes to sweat out a tad.
As an emergency, it works for me, but would be interested in others opinion.
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Not quite. A best before is not like a use by. They are much looser in their application. Within certain limits, it is up to each business to put their own 'range' on their product. So it might mean they were roasted 14 months ago and have a 2 month route to market etc.Originally posted by danielb View PostThe point of the 12 month "best before" date is to subtract 12 months and you get your "roasted on" date. It's just like magic!!!
Of course, if you know the roasted date or you know they use a 12 month period for the best before calculation, that's great.
If you don't know either of those, then you are still just guessing.
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Well I'll just have to give you best on this one Vinitasse,Originally posted by Vinitasse View PostYour = possessive pronoun
Yours = possessive pronoun
You're = contraction of you and are... as in "you are" being silly here and is NOT a possessive pronoun.
English never was my best subject, to save myself the expense of a bottle of Murine I'll change it back again.
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Bugger! Guilty as charged HahaOriginally posted by Yelta View PostCome on Luke, if your out of coffee and cant be bothered roasting your not in a pickle, your just bloody lazy.

Not to gloat but i can not remember the last time i did not have access to coffee. Well over 10 years for sure.
I am spoiled you could say. Whilst the far north coast is not known for being the coffee mecca of Australia, i personally have access to as much coffee as i can carry most of the time and i am very thankful for that.
When times are at their roughest, i'll just fire up ye old(in the first AU shipment) Behmor and randomly weigh out 200g of the 20+kg of green bean i have stashed away in the cupboard.
Take my word for it jools, skip the wok and pick up a popper. You will most likely ruin as much coffee as you would in a wok but at least you will be on the path to correctly(or would that be incorrectly?) using the popper. You will get nowhere near a genuinely palatable coffee from a wok.
P.S. Felling like i need a PHD in proper Engrish to post here now
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Those Justin metcalf beans actually have a roasted on date stamp. I bought some when I was in a bind and although I don't remember exactly what they tasted like, I know I didn't enjoy them. They were roasted 18 days prior to use I believe
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A 12 month 'best before' is a pointless reference.
Beans remain safe to drink for quite a long time after roasting, but they are usually at their best within a 3 week period from roasting and ALWAYS will be past their best after 8 weeks. Many will argue that it would be earlier, but I'm being generous.
Supermarkets might not want stuff on their shelves for a long time, but the turnover on roasted beans is not super and the route to market for most of these brands means they are all usually WELL past the 3 week old mark by the time they get there. And if the pack doesn't have a roasted on date - not worth spending your hard earned on it!
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The big supermarkets don't have much of a sense of humour when it comes to stock sitting on their valuable shelf space for months. I have no idea how long they sit but I would guess "months" would be a long time for any item to be parked on a Cole's shelf. If it's not selling quota the line is gonna get pulled. I could be wrong though - would be interested to check the packaging for dates. Pretty sure Coles beans use a 12mo "best before" date.Originally posted by blend52 View PostIt doesnt matter who's name is on the package, or how good the beans were,..if the roast date is more than 3 weeks past, you may as well save your money.
Unfortunately, the "specialty" brands often turn over much slower than the big name or house brand packs, and as a result they tend to linger on the shelf for months.
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My favorite " emergency " beans are available at Woolies only.
Macro Organic Peruvian coffee beans.... $6.99 for a 200 gm bag.
Packaging blurb describes them as medium blend, chocolate, cinnamon with citrus berry notes.
I've found that to be an honest review. Although it's classified as medium, I rate it on the high end of medium... nice crema and quite nice when your private bin stock runs out.
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It doesnt matter who's name is on the package, or how good the beans were,..if the roast date is more than 3 weeks past, you may as well save your money.Originally posted by danielb View PostI've heard a few stores may still have a couple of bags left. They could be back much sooner depending on the buyer. There are also a few Coles Single Origins that will be there if the blend isn't. All roasted by Home | Justin Metcalf
Unfortunately, the "specialty" brands often turn over much slower than the big name or house brand packs, and as a result they tend to linger on the shelf for months.
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