Natureclean detergent

[segrave]

Just wondering if anyone has used Natureclean detergent, it for espresso machines and it all i can get my hands on today wondering if its anygood??

[tempestv8]

Re: Natureclean detergent

This is the first time Ive heard of this product.

A quick google on the word "Natureclean" pointed me to a link of a vendor which I dont believe is one of  this sites sponsors, so I think this thread may end up being one of those taboo topics.

Are you looking for a cleaning agent for the internals of your machine, e.g. a descaler?

[tempestv8]

Re: Natureclean detergent


Doing a bit more research on cleaning agents I have found that most are based around trisodium phosphate (TSP). The TSP is cut with inert ingredients to bring down the concentration and buffers are added so it will not attack the rubber gasket.

However, this particular product, "Natureclean" may be using come other non-chemical ingredients to do the job.

However, Id be very wary of putting any cleaning chemicals into my machine, as Im never to sure whether it will all "come out" with a flush. I dont really fancy the idea of drinking a cup of latte with traces of cleaning chemicals in it. >

What part of your machine are you trying to clean? Maybe I can do more research specific to what you need?

[TC]

Re: Natureclean detergent

Doing a bit more research on cleaning agents I have found that most are based around trisodium phosphate (TSP). The TSP is cut with inert ingredients to bring down the concentration and buffers are added so it will not attack the rubber gasket.

However, this particular product, "Natureclean" may be using come other non-chemical ingredients to do the job.

However, Id be very wary of putting any cleaning chemicals into my machine, as Im never to sure whether it will all "come out" with a flush.  I dont really fancy the idea of drinking a cup of latte with traces of cleaning chemicals in it.   >

What part of your machine are you trying to clean?  Maybe I can do more research specific to what you need?

Welcome to the world of the backflush! :P. I would suggest that a uncleaned machine will gum up with filthy, rancid coffee oils quite rapidly and these will cause tainting of the cup and perhaps eventually cause the machine to fail.

Cafetto EVO is sold by Coffeeparts and is certified for use in organic systems. If used correctly no residue remains in the machine and I guess that if there is a touch, youre an organic system anyway.

There are some cleaning recommendations on our website which will give you a start: http://www.talkcoffee.com.au/cleaning-and-maintenance/...may be worth having a look over them. Most baristi reject the next couple of shots after a chemical clean...

So clean or dont....comes down to how much youd like to spend on repairs....

[segrave]

Re: Natureclean detergent

Well i needed the cleaner for soaking the group head on my brunetti and i was in a hurry heance i didnt want to wait for delivery i just grabbed this stuff and it seemed to do the job quite well. phh you shold have seem the PFs they were at least 3mm thick with rancid coffee oil and they were in use not 3 weeks ago i think everyone that had a coffee from this machine would vomit if they knew what was in it ;D

[tempestv8]

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I wonder whether I can request the barrista to show me the insides of their PF before I order my next cup at the latte shop! :

[robusto]

Re: Natureclean detergent

I wonder whether I can request the barrista to show me the insides of their PF before I order my next cup at the latte shop!   :

Or, if in doubt, stand back and observe.... is the portafilter ever flushed with hot water? Is the steam wand tip thick with encrusted milk? Does the same cloth used to wipe the bench double as a steam wand cleaner? Etc.

-Robusto

[lucinda]

Re: Natureclean detergent

*quietly leaves thread before I throw up*


Not cleaning machine????

[Dimal]

Re: Natureclean detergent

Whoa ,

There she "blows" again :P.... Make yourself a nice fresh Latte there Cindy, thatll settle things down a bit

Mal.