Sorry for jumping on to your thread! But I'm interested in getting an Everpure as well, particularly the 4FC-S. I can't find a detailed spec sheet online about what kinda filtration they use and how much chlorine they remove. Any ideas?
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Thanks. I was waiting til this morning to contact Pedro @ coffee parts who I bought it off, but just thought someone might know in the meantime. Thanks for the customer service number, they appear shut over w/e too though.Originally posted by Vinitasse View PostWhy not contact Everpure directly and ask them??????
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To the best of my understanding, activated carbon removes chlorine. You will not need to worry about it. Filter cartridges will take well beyond mains pressure without a PLV (at least Brita will as they are rated to 9bar). If you are plumbing a machine a 350kPa PLV should be used. I reckon they are a good idea with fridges, dishwashers etc as well.
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I've just purchased an over sink everpure on the weekend. I'm in wooloowin (renting) and have just set up my machine after it being in storage for the last six months. I had a twin under sink setup in our house in nz and had great flow rates also. I'm not convinced with the filter included but needed it asap as I didn't want to run tap water through my machine either. I will be contacting a water filter company soon to discuss some more options.
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Damn Water Filtration!
OK quick update. I received my Everpure 4FC-S and installed it on the weekend. Nice and simple, no mess no fuss.
Here's my problem, after flushing a solid 5-10 mins water through the tap I got my trusty water testing kit and did my first post water filter test. Nothing. It hadn't changed. That must be a mistake, I know I'll try again, I must be mistaken..... Nope, the amount of change between my pre filter to post filter water? Nothing, nada, zippo, zilch!
At this stage I'm still not convinced that it's something to do with the filter so I decide to run MORE water through the tap. I convince myself that it must need to 'settle in', so I leave it go for 24 hours of standard kitchen use before testing again. Still NOTHING! No change. I test from the bathroom tap (unfiltered) and it's exactly the same!!! How is this possible that the bath water is the same as my new, beaut, "it's what you need" coffee machine water filtration system! It's not like these things go off??
The next thing I start to consider is that the water test kit might be a dud, but when I test it on the other side of town (Beenleigh!), which is fed by a completely different dam/water supply and get readings that are in keeping with that supply, I quickly rule the water test kit out. The test kit is working ok for these purposes.
I follow up with the place of purchase, who, whilst nice enough, tells me that the water system is only meant to bring the 'hardness' down to the levels that I'm quoting them. They go so far as to say that the levels of 107.4 to 125.3 ppm (GH) & 71.6 to 89.5 ppm (KH) are the target range for coffee machines and that at these levels I shouldn't expect any scale build up, and that it's what they aim for.
They did acknowledge that they had some deficits in knowledge with regards to the Everpure range and recommended I speak to Pentair who would have the technical expertise. Pentair, politely told me that they did not deal with this particular water filter and to speak with Water Filters Australia, who incidentally, were very helpful up to the point of telling me anything useful as the 'water filtration expert' was on a day off and they would contact me tomorrow. I'll see how that pans out.
So now I'm confused. I'm a weekend warrior coffee consumer. I don't do coffee for a living and whilst I enjoy a great cup of coffee as much as the next person, I'm clearly no expert. Everything that I've read however, points to water hardness (GH) in the range of 60 to 80ppm & alkalinity (KH) of about 40 to 60ppm, to produce a nice cuppa and keep my machine in a happy state.
Either the Everpure 4FC-S is working fine and is clearly not suitable for my goal (or anyone else wanting to keep scale to a minimum or free in their machine!) or the unit I have is a dud. Or I have completely misunderstood the value of running water hardness at the levels I just quoted to avoid scale build up on my shiny new machine.
So, I suspect I'm back to square one, just $200 (with a little change) poorer.
So, does anyone know if it's possible to run a water filter, under sink direct to the existing mixer tap, that will produce water hardness in the range required to keep a machine scale free-ish, whilst still providing water flow at upwards of 7-8L/m?
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I'm keen to find a suitable solution but have not had the time yet to invest into researching it any further. Maybe try puretec commercial link removed per http://coffeesnobs.com.au/general-ne...icy-rules.html as another option for help. I actually sent Everpure an email after I posted above and have not had a reply from them as yet either.
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Thanks for the update. I asked a very similar question a few months ago as I wanted to achieve the same as you ..... filtered water to protect the coffee machine delivered through the standard kitchen mixer at a decent flow rate. Whilst not being able to provide much insight into your problems I will be following with interest and hope you keep the thread updated of your findings.
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Not sure why the link was removed? The undersink filter system they manufacture have an anti scale system protection. I think part of the key with most filters from each company is to run a multiple stage filtration. I will keep looking into this but would still be interested in other feedback and ideas also.
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You cant provide a direct link to a supplier / manufacturer who is not an "Official Site Sponsor". It is still possible for us to copy and paste the name you provided into Google. It doesn't give too much information on what it does unfortunately. One of my local suppliers is a place I deal with at work just up the road so I might get in touch to find some additional information.
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Looking at the spec sheet (which is more marketing guide than technical datasheet), the 4FC-s seems to be primarily for reducing inorganic particulates, microbes and chlorine. Only passing mention to scale and no certification for removal of scale forming ions listed.
So, maybe a case of wrong tool for the job.
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and therein lies the rub. There seems to be a whole lot of mis-information surrounding water filtration, with plenty of 'marketing' and only limited specifics as to what a filter will actually do.Originally posted by MrJack View PostLooking at the spec sheet (which is more marketing guide than technical datasheet)
I am gaining a very quick lesson in water filtration, and as I pull it all together, I'll post up my own little experience for others to possibly benefit from, as well as what I've decided/found to be the best solution to my specific situation. In the meantime, these images are from the Everpure website. Basically the one that ticks all the boxes is the 4FC-S.
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